Hi Peter & all Sorry about the delay in replying... > I am not convinced that all vending machines use the same size cup! I was trying to keep things as simple as possible and so I assumed that vending machine cups, although not identical, were similar enough not to bother about the difference. But I was given some other figures at the weekend by Pam Gregory, her figures were specifically for the expanded polystyrene type of vending cup and those figures were 500 to 850 bees in the same soggy condition that I described... Having been collected in a Marburg box in the same way. Best Regards & 73s, Dave Cushman... G8MZY Beekeeping & Bee Breeding Website Email: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] http://website.lineone.net/~dave.cushman & http://www.dave-cushman.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::