By the way, the best single resources I have ever seen offering a no-nonsense look at motherhood across the world and over time is: Blaffer Hrdy, S. Mother nature: A history of mothers, infants, and natural selection. New York: Pantheon Books 1999. It's a very long, detailed, well-referenced, fascinating and sometimes disturbing book that challenges many culturally based notions about motherhood. I highly recommend it. It supports well Barbara Wilson Clay's general comments about their being no utopia among traditional societies. Cynthia Cynthia Good Mojab, MS, IBCLC, RLC Ammawell Website: http://home.comcast.net/~ammawell Email: [log in to unmask] Announcement only email list: [log in to unmask] *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html