I am cerious, what happens here. When the vergin queen emerges into a queen right colony, does the vergin fight with the mated queen before or after she mates herself? Ian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::