FYI, I purchase both commercial and select woodenware for my business as I resell woodenware as well as other beekeeping supplies. However, I use only commercial woodenware for building my hives, frames, and supers. If I find a loose knot I glue it with a water-resistant glue, the same glue as I use on all my wooden frames as well as 10 nails or 10 staples. I have found that in some cases one's commercial woodenware is equal to or better than another source's select. I do not purchase budget woodenware because these truly are rejects and the quality is truly missing. IMO you are better off buying woodenware from a supplier that you can trust and who you can build a long term relationship with; the price of the woodenware is not as important as the quality of the manufacturer. One important note: Beespace! Each reputable manufacturer will dimension their woodenware as a system since beespace must be maintained between frames, supers, hive bodies, etc. If you get frames from one manufacturer, supers from another, and hive bodies and innerboards from still another you are inviting the bees that you want to put forth effort drawing comb on frames to fill your hive with burr, brace and bridges of comb and honey that you will wind up removing with your hivetool and not an uncapping knife. IMO using budget woodenware invites the same problems. It pays to be prudent, not cheap! Chuck Norton Norton's Nut & Honey Farm Reidsville, NC :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::