Barbara, I don't think you understand my situation. I am the messenger standing at the door and the door has not been answered by any breastfeeding organization. I have been standing at that door since the year 2000. Silence. What does that mean to you? You say that means belief. But to the person who gets that kind of response, one can also assume disbelief or disinterest. I must admit there has been a few people, not organizations, interested in the patent information but the overall response has not been one in which I feel like I am being heard. I feel that your suggestion that I am am putting this discussion into a "them vs us" framework is an interesting perspective. I certainly have friends and allies in the breastfeeding community. But I would assume by your post that maybe some of the breastfeeding community is not feeling too friendly with me. There is a saying about "not killing the messenger." I feel you are saying there is no answer to the patenting problem and that most people on this list would not know what to do anyway. Yet I am being chastised for not giving you'all some concrete suggestions. I look at it as a no-win situation, whatever I do I am wrong. I have believed that the first step in understanding a problem is to acknowledge there is a problem. Acknowledgement puts it into reality. I believe you are saying that acknowledgement has occured and now let's put this off-line because it is imprudent to show all our cards. Interesting...and the only thing I can say is the message has been sitting on breastfeeding organizations' doorsteps for a number of years. All they had to do was pick it up. But no one did---so....what is it that you want me to do? Be quiet? Valerie W. McClain, IBCLC *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html