Hi there. I appreciate you not wanting to start a circumcision discussion. Whew! We have talked about the clear fluid issue several times, and I wonder if those discussions might help you find what you need. Here is a search note that you might want to use, and it's time I sent it anyhow. You could do a search for notes with the key words from a certain author (in this case, Nikki Lee, whose address has guitar, I think), ...such as SEARCH * in Lactnet where sender contains guitar SINCE Jan 2003 Hope this helps...and good luck with the search engine on our wonderful listserv. Best, Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Bruce [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 8:37 PM To: LACTNET Subject: archival search instructions ARCHIVAL SEARCH INSTRUCTIONS This is a clarification of how to do SEARCH functions on Lactnet..it is very useful to have this information at your finger tips, and to try it out. Many times, a topic has been discussed, and you can benefit from finding past posts on the topic you are interested in. Lactnet now has many years of archives and we are now up to over 3000 + subscribers ). To look for the most current posts, use the listname LACTNET in your search command. For info's sake, there are a few different ways to do a search for subject matter or sender on Lactnet material. We have 5 years of Lactnet posts available to you. The first way is to do the searches by email through the [log in to unmask] address. The second way is accessing the archives from our archive web site at LACTNET Archives <http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html. The following instructions apply to the first method, searching via the listserv. For instance, if you are interested in finding all the notes that have Goat's Milk in the text you can send an email message to [log in to unmask] that says SEARCH goat in LACTNET If you are interested in finding several different words in Lactnet posts, such as the following, it might seem that the right way to do it is to do several *different* searches, in separate notes to listserv, like.... search epilepsy in lactnet search tegretol in lactnet search carbamazepine in lactnet search phenobarbital in lactnet to the [log in to unmask] address. However, this is not an effective way to utilize the search function, as it taxes the system, and is ineffective. We want to encourage you all to use the search functions, and here are a few hints....and suggestions on how best to do SEARCHes on Lactnet. You can put several commands into a single message, and should do so when you can (because it's easier for both you and the machine). Just put each command onto its own line. Second, it will be much easier for you to make sense of the output if you put everything you want from LACTNET into a single command: SEARCH EPILEPSY OR TEGRETOL OR CARBAMAZEPINE OR PHENOBARBITAL OR PROZAC IN LACTNET ... like that. Or you can do things like this, too: SEARCH EPILEPSY AND (TEGRETOL OR CARBAMAZEPINE OR PHENOBARBITAL) IN LACTNET Rather than having to combine the lists of results that LISTSERV gives you to from those individual searches, let it do the work for you. If you were interested in searching for all the posts that I have made, for instance, on Lactnet, you could do a SEARCH * in Lactnet where sender contains Bruce to the [log in to unmask] address. If you wanted to see all the posts I've made since Jan 1997, for instance, you could do a SEARCH * in Lactnet where sender contains Bruce SINCE Jan 1997 to [log in to unmask] If you are searching for several words that are together, such as Breastmilk storage container and you want to know what has been said since March 1995, on Lactnet, you should first know that the Listserv automatically assumes "NEAR" between all the words, so they not only have to be in the same article but also within a few words of each other. In addition, unless you *have* to search the entire set of archives, you should always limit the search with a date specifier like this: For instance, say the subject of the search is breastmilk storage containers.....The search command would be : search breastmilk storage containers in LACTNET It is important to specify the search. Many articles talking about breast milk would separate the two words, and that some articles talking about containers might only say "container", etc. Specifying a search that gets all or most of what you want with a minimum of what you don't is as much of an art as a science. For information on searching, write to [log in to unmask] with the command INFO DATABASE. When you use the SEARCH function, the computer will send you back a "menu" of posts, each having a 4 digit number (####). You can then order the posts you want with the command GETPOST Lactnet #### #### #### #### to [log in to unmask] Last but not least, the search function is also available at the WEB SITE LACTNET Archives <http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html If you have questions, please write to us at [log in to unmask] Thanks! *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html