In message <[log in to unmask]>, Kathy E Cox <[log in to unmask]> writes >Can you tell me why a swarm would swarm a second time? Do I still >stand a chance that they will swarm a third time? I hived a swarm a few years ago and moved it to a new site. The queen started to lay, so I felt quite happy they were staying put. A week later, I found they had moved to a larger hive where I was temporarily storing empty drawn comb. They reamed out the cells beautifully. Another one that hadn't read the books - bees always stay on larvae don't they! I had a swarm re-swarm before the larvae hatched this year. A couple of years ago it seemed that a fair proportion of swarms re-swarmed later once the new colony was established. I have had swarms move out of the hive I put them into and hang a bit further away from the original hive. I have given up putting a swarm back on its original site (one of the standard practices - I usually do this with the swarmed stock over the swarm) and now do the whole works - move it 3 miles or more and drop it in front of a hive on a sheet so they have to climb in. I reckon it makes sure they don't know the landmarks and have also done one of the two things they normally do after first clustering. I can't simulate flying! Scouts coming back to a hived colony may still persuade them of a better home and they may not like the scent of the hive. One tip I think it was either Chris Slade or Dave Cushman gave, is to use an empty super below the hive body to give them cluster space. -- James Kilty :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::