Chris (Who is a classic Mugwump, with his mug on one side of the fence, and his wump on t'other.) said: > After I reported my observations one or two other beekeepers (including > Norman Carreck, a genuine scientist) took the trouble to look at their > observation hives for the same behavior (ignored dancers) and found it. > However, nobody said it was a well understood part of the process. > Perhaps, Jim, you could elucidate to help our better understanding and > enlightenment. Heck, I don't claim any special insight or unique knowledge. But there are a few possible reasons why a dancer might be ignored: 1) No foragers available. Lots of house bees to unload foragers, but no actual "unemployed foragers" hanging around waiting for a hot tip. 2) Information overload. Every forager is dancing, since the observation hive is in a NEW LOCATION, and every find seems a "treasure trove". At some point, the bees might start to ignore all but the dances with the most over-the-top break-dancing. I have a hard time seeing a bee dance clearly in real time. I have to video tape, and then play it back in slow motion. Maybe others have better eyes than mine, but I'd think that judging the relative "vigor" of one dance versus another is difficult without slo-mo video instant-replay. 3) Not sweet enough. The forager is enthusiastic, but her nectar is unimpressive. This SHOULD happen often, as the forager has found a "good supply", but the food critics think "I've tasted much sweeter from all the others". The forager lacks perspective by definition. She cannot know if her load is a "winner" or not. 4) Too far away. The forager makes a long "waggle run", hundreds of little bee feet pick up the vibration, and hundreds of multi-faceted eyes roll towards the heavens as the assembled crowd thinks "Who is SHE kidding?" 5) Elves? 6) Witchcraft? 7) US Attorney General John Ashcroft? jim :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::