Carole, You said, "WE CANNOT TRY HARDER THAN OUR CLIENTS ARE WILLING TO." You won't hear a flame from me on this. I agree totally. It is much easier for a mom to say she would have breastfed, but if the expert couldn't even help, then what else can she do but give it up. When this happens to me and I am 99.99999% certain she was looking for validation of her desire not to nurse, I still get rapped by my supervisor if mom says in her eval of the unit that "the LC was no help". In her mind it can never be on the part of the mom. It has to be something I didn't word right or some way I misunderstood what she wanted form me. ARRGGHH! That's one of the many "perks" of Lactnet. When we feel we are banging our heads against the wall, there is always someone to verify that it's the wall that's giving us the headache, not ourselves. Knowing others are having the same frustrations doesn't make them go away, but it does make them a little easier to cope with. Winnie *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html