> I had taken one of those styrofoam nuc boxes to get the nuc... the styrofoam nuc couldn't support > all the bees inside and they suffocated, overheated and died.... This same scenario is playing out to quite a few buyers/sellers. The styrofoam boxes are great in northern climes, but not well suited for the south, and definitely poorly suited for transporting. The styrofoam is great insulation against the cold, but ventillation is still insufficient for the bees to thermoregulate when things get hot. Ventillation screens are in order in warm/hot conditions when transproting these styrofoam nuc boxes. The first design of the styrofoam boxes I bought had no ventillation holes whatsoever. They were very expensive and next to useless. Bees could be installed in the boxes, but once installed the nuc boxes could not be transported. The ventillation problem was obvious in the old design. Subsequently the boxes were redesigned, with two ventillation holes drilled (one in front, one in back). The front of the boxes now have 2 holes, a lower hole for the bees, and an upper hole for ventillation, plus a third hole in the back. Both ventillation holes are screened. I figured the new design would address the ventillation problems, but apparently not. I had a shipment of 50 nucs sent from South Carolina to upstate New York and experienced similar results. So far 8 of 30 were overheated, with dead bees. And the sad thing here is that it's the strongest nucs that overheat. Jim wrote, "He was kind enough to put in some extra bees and an empty frame to fill up the positions since the box was five frame and the nuc was four frame." Perhaps the extra bees and frame sealed the nuc's fate. Fewer bees and more room may have saved them. Buyers and sellers should both be aware of the ventillation problems with these styrofoam nuc boxes. Aaron Morris - I think, therefore I bee! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::