<I just tell them to "hold onto their nuts," because residents are always very into gross humor (in my experience;)> Great post Barbara. I just thought of an additional reason this approach may be so effective, specifically because it can be perceived by males as very personal. Sauce for the gander, so to speak, since they will never experience engorged breasts, an experience which is so very personal for women. I was researching Klinefelter's syndrome for someone, and it stated that in adolescence, a boy's testicle normally grows from the volume of 2 cc. to reach the adult size of 15 cc. Even though male residents may not "know" the exact numerical volume of their own testes, they would certainly have observed intimately the changes in their own body while (hopefully) passing psychologically and physically from adolescence to adulthood, let alone doing physicals on other males. That volume is close enough to a walnut, and the wrinkles make it all the better than a golf ball! (Your post ought to be copied and pinned on the bulletin board in every nation in the land! Or do you have something like it in the newest BF Atlas?) Jean *********** K. Jean Cotterman RNC, IBCLC Dayton, Ohio *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html