I want to put in my 30 ml worth here. When a cesarean involves delay in getting baby to breast, I often observe delay in the rest of the process. When baby comes to breast and nurses well within the first few hours, and then keeps on doing so, lactogenesis seems to proceed just as rapidly as after a normal birth. Likewise, when babies after vaginal births are delayed in coming to the breast and nursing often and well, for whatever reason, lactogenesis is delayed too. With a cesarean, more staff attention is needed to ensure that baby has access and mother is able to start breastfeeding. But I look for the red flags after CS just as I do after vaginal births, and CS per se isn't the biggest red flag, it is all the other stuff, sometimes preceding, and almost always following in the wake of, the CS. I am consciously using the terms 'vaginal' and 'normal' birth to connote two different things. A normal birth in my book is always a vaginal birth, while the converse, regrettably, is not true. Rachel Myr, writing as a midwife now, in Kristiansand, Norway *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html