I'm still catching up on LN from my vacation and it's not easy to reply in the archive mode (probably keeps me from talking too much!). I have one thought about this subject that I haven't seen mentioned yet. Mom's milk will "come in" whether she pumps or not. If baby does die and she is pumping, she can ease off gradually and not be as uncomfortable physically. And as was mentioned, some moms find it very fulfilling to provide their milk to a milk bank while they are "drying up" so that another baby can benefit. I always approach these moms very honestly (as long as they have already been given the prognosis). I'll say something like. "We know there's a chance the baby may not make it. Many moms in your situation find that if they can provide some milk for their baby, or at least have it available if baby can take something, that they feel better about it. If you want to start pumping now, I will show you how to do it and give you some tips. If you prefer to wait until this has all sunk in, I will understand that." Some moms do want to start pumping, some want to wait a day or so to see how baby does, but I let her make the choice. In these situations, moms don't often have many choices. To assume either that she WILL or WON'T want pump is taking away what little power she does have. Winnie *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html