Marita wrote "The next day I was reamed out by the CLE; for stepping on her turf, I guess. Baby did die a couple of days later...I felt the whole thing was very dishonest. There apparently never was any doubt that this baby would die, but maybe someone could have had a real discussion with this mom before making a decision for her." Marita, you are so right and this sort of situation is a great one to bring to an ethics committee if your facility has one, even after the fact, for certainly this kind of situation will come up again. Also, as someone else posted, L&D staff and nicu staff (and others) should certainly be skilled in grief counseling and related issues. Laurie Wheeler, IBCLC, MN, RN New Orleans Louisiana, s.e. USA _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html