Len Mullenger <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >I have just placed Scott Mortensen's pages on Charles Ives on >MusicWeb. I am sure he would welcome your comments: > >http://www.musicweb.uk.net/Ives/01_Ives_Site_Home_Index.htm I viewed the pages and found them to be quite informative and well written. However, I'm wondering about Scott Mortensen's assertion: I believe that it is not really correct to label Ives a "post-modernist" for a variety of reasons. First of all, Ives does not use allusions in an ironic way, as do most post-modernists. He has a high regard for all of the music that he quotes, regardless of its origin. Irony is just ONE of the alternative methods of postmodernism. There are a large number of postmodernist works that treat quotations just as Ives did. Were Ives writing today, there's no doubt in my mind he'd be considered postmodernist. He was even more ahead of his time than Modernists would like us to believe. Or perhaps today's postmodernists are BEHIND the times? Jeff Dunn [log in to unmask]