Kris, Since they do give out your brochure, you know they aren't totally against you. How about offering to do a brief inservice for the staff. Perhaps along the lines of "How an LC can help moms" and "What concerns do moms have after they leave the hospital" With the latter you can gently point out long term effects of interventions like shields as well as what they are doing that helps the moms (even if you have to stretch to find something positive) Winnie *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html