Mary Kay, In answer to your question: How can you check for colostrum (showing mom yes you do have milk) if you don't touch the breast? I always use a knitted breast and an illustration from the Unicef booklet (Baby Friendly) to show the mom what she is feeling for and almost never need to touch a woman's breast. Letting the mother do it herself with your guidance on an artificial breast is much more empowering than doing it for her. There is also no risk of causing her pain. Best wishes, Lucy Simnett RN, RM, IBCLC _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html