Hi there, I don't usually reply to the discussions going around, but I had a question in regard to a rather emphatic comment, so here goes... > The reason for the MESS of cross comb, burr comb, oversize comb, etc., was you tried to get 9 frames drawn rather than 10, and you violated "bee space". You always get foundation drawn by using 10 frames TIGHTLY PACKED TOGETHER, leaving any leftover space near the side wall of the hive. > Ok, then, if that is the case, then why in the world have my bees always drawn all the frames in over the hundred deep boxes that I have used evenly and nicely... They are all spaced with those western 9 frame spacers. I have never had any problem, maybe a couple of times i got a bit of comb in the wrong spot when the frame was on a slate from having being forced aside but burr comb or whatever below. But that was normally on already drawn comb anyhow... Anyone else always use 9 frames when drawing comb? O, and one more thing, I have even interspersed drawn with undrawn, and most of the time they are not uneven... I live in Ontario, if that makes any difference in how this might be answered. Thanks in advance for any comment. Carmenie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com