Previous post said: <<So far I have suggested lots of skin to skin, pump to maintain the supply, attempt to nurse every 2-3hrs, keep time at the breast pleasant... and supplement to grow.>> All of us have seen babies who suck their tongues, don't flange right, suck on the lower lip, have slightly decreased muscle tone and so on. Persistence is almost all that matters! No, persistence and ABSOLUTE absence of bottles. Close follow up by a skilled, experienced LC will get moms through these first days. Support and encouragement may be just as important as adjusting the latch. Please get rid of all bottles and support the parents in the knowledge that they have time to get this baby nursing and that they have plenty of time before there is any danger. Lori, I don't know you at all (that's OK, you don;t know me either . . .) but I am not sure why you suggested formula and then more formula to combat weight loss. You have not mentioned that this baby is anything other than a healthy full term good-sized newborn. If so, there is virtually never any need for supplements of any kind. Weight loss and slow latch-learning are 100% acceptable in almost every single baby. I am sorry if I seem to be belaboring this point but I found your post very disconcerting. "Growing" is not a priority in the first week or two. Maybe I have misunderstood and this is a premie . . . or a baby in a higher risk group. Jay Gordon, MD, FAAP, IBCLC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html