I didn't mean to quote Dr. Akima side by side JEG. I've just wanted to add something interesting to the debate. Dr. Akima's excellent notes on Beethoven's tempi has proved I was right in quoting JEG's notes (to show what HIP performers think about tempo in Beethoven). By the way: I do agree that Harnoncourt's and Furtwangler's and Kemplerer's Beethoven are better than Gardiner's. Regards, Wilson Pereira.