BF pillows can be used incorrectly, like anything else. I've seen plenty of cases like the ones Cathy describes, where baby on pillow is so high up that mother must lift her breasts up to baby. Baby ends up having to hold breasts in position by suction, with expected results. No device is a substitute for competent help, as Kathleen Bruce has said. This is valid no matter what the device. Sometimes I wish the contraptions were available by prescription from a dedicated LC only! When pillows are sold in stores by people with no experience helping mothers to BF and no interest in BF success, it is no surprise that the help is lacking. It is more discouraging when the hospital staff tosses a mother a pillow instead of helping her. Rachel Myr Kristiansand, Norway where we have BF pillows in the hospital, in stores, by mail order, and where we try to differentiate between those who may have a use for them and those who do not. *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html