One of my lactation mentors (Susan Johnson, first president of VLCA here in Vermont) said, "We're not here to make it happen. We're here to let it happen." Moms respond to that statement. Nurses do too - they seem relieved after that first nervous laugh! Also - I've been having very good luck lately with moms who are not holding their breasts (during hospital stay) and babies seem to need that holding. "It's like trying to eat a doughnut on a string at Halloween." Moms and dads laugh and I see moms holding the breast nicely after that. Dawn Kersula thinking of cider doughnuts here in Bright and Shiny Southern Vermont - oh the blue blue sky after yesterday's fluffy flakes!...and glad I'm not at the Xtreme Games at Mt Snow. *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html