Hello, Flashback to three years and some months ago. This sounds a lot like my daughter. She screamed and she nursed. She nursed and she screamed. From the first hour after birth until about 3 months of age. Furious, purple-faced, clenched little body. Sometimes bathing worked, sometimes massage worked, sometimes driving/walking/ dancing/ the sling/nursing worked...and sometimes they didn't. Homeopathy brought some relief to me, if not always her. The only thing that would settle her to feed when she got really into a state and was far too disorganized to nurse effectively was to hold her close into the nursing position and offer her my finger to suck for 30 seconds or so. For whatever reason, she could focus on this stimulation and it would soothe her long enough to calm and organize enough to then slip my finger out and offer the breast. Then she would nurse quite nicely. Til next time. She was healthy, gained fabulously, no other problems with nursing. Just very very intense and easily over stimulated. She progressed to biting in annoyance from 10-12 months and didn't show any interest in any other food til well over 11 months. She started sucking her thumb as soon as she found it and sucked it regularly in addition to nursing at least 10 times a day. She too rolled over, strolled and walked early. She remains an extremely bright, very spirited and intensely emotional child. Parenting her is a challenge and a joy. Has physical birth trauma been ruled out? Does she hold him differently while giving a bottle? Perhaps there is something very painful about the nursing position that is eased in another position. Wasn't the case with my daughter, but this can be a hidden cause of early breast refusal or fussiness at the breast (I know, sounds like a massive understatement in this case!). I wish her all the best and I strongly suggest she get some solid resources for parenting the spirited child. Even if these nursing issues are resolved, it sounds like she is going to benefit from them for the next 18 years or so! :-) I have no suggestions to make other than those you have mentioned yourself, just a great deal of empathy. Best, AM Simmons, LLLL Missouri, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Crying baby > Hi wise ones -- all 2000+ of you! <G> > > Mom's permission to post to y'all.... Saw a 6 week old baby today who is a > screamer. He came into the office screaming, and he could hardly settle. > Mom has been unable to breastfeed successfully as he screams at the breast. > Occasionally he will calm enough to latch on & feed for a few minutes, but > then he starts screaming -- and we are talking a REALLY MAD MAD cry, not > painful, not pathetic, not overwhelmed -- it is a MAD cry!!! .... *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html