<< My mgr likes this approach as several pts did not like when the LC gave info on problems that can occur with supplements. >> laurie, you are right to question this approach. this "don't rock the boat, moms will come around when they are ready" type of thing would only be a positive approach in a hospital where there were no bottles, no formula, no pacifiers, no well-baby nursery, and the only bottles were for babies whose mothers brought them in before the birth, having made a conscious decision to not breastfeed. a laissez-faire approach to feeding choice is a tacit approval of formula feeding, because the deck is stacked against the baby when these things are available. the mere availability of these things (bottles etc.) condones their use. to me, this just means that at this hospital they are even more aware that they aren't supporting breastfeeding. but then, that's also true of every hospital that has (see list) bottles etc. and there is just no way to claim that this is not true. sorry. you just can't have it both ways. except, of course, that its the LCs in the hospitals where i am that give out the bottles and formula, and SO enthusiastically. i keep wondering if i have not read the ethics section that THEY have read or if maybe i have some sort of complete misunderstanding of what it is i do? think about it this way. for some lucky few, birth is a physical event like no other. or maybe it is at least like great sex. but if the mom and dad light up a cigarette to celebrate, would the nurses just "let it go"? carol brussel IBCLC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html