>Never say never. The 1968 (?) Szel Mahler 6 is a live recording. > Deryk Barker >[log in to unmask] I've owned that recording on LP and CD! It was a radio tape that was released posthumously by Columbia. It was not made with the INTENTION of being released commercially, in comparison to, say, the DG Bernstein recordings. So that point of mine, at least, stands, though somewhat reworded: The Cleveland Orchestra has never recorded a concert with the intention of it becoming a commerical release. With regard to my other arguments: let's just agree to disagree. It's a healthy argument. Robin Mitchell-Boyask Temple University Philadelphia PA 19122 Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html