> Upon examining latch, corners of mouth were not as wide as I would have > expected. We worked several times attempting to obtain a deeper latch > without success. Although it didn't seem obvious, I am wondering if > perhaps mom may be moving away from baby as she latches, perhaps in > anticipation of discomfort. Judy, I, too, observed this in moms with severely damaged nipples. It might improve if mom positions herself upright, but resting to the back of a chair, have her feet on a footrester, perhaps with a pillow on her lap to have the arm that holds the baby in a high position. In this position she can't ''back-off'' when the baby latches, 'cause the baby will kind of roll on to her. This works best if combined with an explanation that the deeper the latch, the lesser the pain and that mom has to be very aware of that and purposly tuck the baby very very close. I like to suggest moms in this situation to take slow, deep, relaxing breaths (''nose in, mouth out'') while latching the baby on. Gonneke van Veldhuizen, IBCLC, living in Maaseik, Belgium http://www.users.skynet.be/eurolac [log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html