The frequence of posting on this thread has decreased, but I think some really productive things has come out of itso far. Though I just tend to agree with those who stress the symphonic form of WAgners operas and I agree in prnciple on the democratic opinions expressed in the Ring. But I know there is much more to be said, and I hope it will be. I know there are many knowledgeable people out there who can contribute with their interesting opinions and observations, and I hope they do. Furthermore, I plan to within two months launch a Wagner website (which already exists in fragmentary form) with stuff that I hope shall be informative, and also help newcomers quickly find their way through the rich fonde of leitmotifs in the Ring. The guide will also hopefully give new ideas of how the leitmotifs are developed and how they are related to each other, so that the knowledgeable listener might find informative things in it as well. Mats Norrman [log in to unmask]