Yes I know Im supposed to be on vacation, but I was way behind on your Lactnet wisdoms... so here's one more before I go - to help a mom understand why her baby takes so long to feed, or gets frustrated and gives up, when latch is poor, I tell what another LC shared with me: it's like riding a bicycle but the chain keeps slipping, you might keep having to start over, you work harder than you would if the chain was on right, you are more likely to get frustrated, and you might get where you are going but it takes a lot longer than usual, and you might be more likely to need more breaks on the way there... Judy LeVan Fram, Brooklyn, NY *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html