Well, so Satoshi misses profundity in Mozart's operas. Goodness, I think the guy is more German than I am and I have got a German passport. I think there is a lot of profundity in Mozart's operas but simply presented in a different way than Wagner presents it in his works. For me Nietzsche got it right when he said that Wagner's music sweats. Listening to Der Ring I always hear Wagner shouting at me: "I have got a MESSAGE! My message is IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT! Got me? I-M-P-O-R-T-A-N-T!" Mozart just tells stories and the stories have got the profundity in themselves. And, his biggest sin I guess for the Wagnerites, he does it with humour and grace and lightness. Well, the finale of Don Giovanni, when the monument comes in, for me is more moving and more profound than Goetterdaemmerung. But maybe I am no real German... Robert Peters [log in to unmask]