Just a short note to let you know that I have obtained a 9-page document eminating from the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration that proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that officials have officially authenticated the fraudulent research on royal jelly and officially rejected authentic, though somewhat flawed research. In the process they have rejected the New Zealand Minister of Health's 5-person scientific review of bee products. I was at a Trans-Taman Harmonisation meeting in Sydney on Friday with officials from both sides of the Tasman as well as industry. I managed to successfully drop the hand grenade into the meeting -- was told that it wasn't the appropriate forum!!!! I mentioned that we had raised the issue of the integrity of the royal jelly research with the prime ministers of both countries, with the health ministers, at least 8 senior officials on Australia, at Chatham House rules meetings, in letters, emails, faxes, in person. Mentioned that I had personally given copies of before and after alterations of official records to senior managers so that they could put things right quietly. Told them that we'd convinced a select committee headed by none other than the (now) NZ speaker of the house and had forced a ministerial scientific review that found against officialdom on all five terms of reference. I asked them what was the proper forum to challenge officials incorporating fraud into official records was. I also asked them how they could expect us to get into bed with Australia when their regulatory environment stunk so much. It is apparent that the Australian regulatory system was so bent on resisting change and on trying to justify wrong decision-making that it was prepared to resort to authenticating fraud in an attempt to legitimise its position. I'm still trying to work out why they were so upset? I suggested that they lookup the meaning of the term outrage in risk analysis documents. I've forwarded the document to a member of the Parliamentary Select Committee that recommended the revoking of the labelling regulations. Will keep you posted.