In the work of the present, people take serious someone else suceding where they have tried and failed. In the work of the near past, people take seriously that which gives them identity, often what they have been told is emblematic of their identity. The best road is not to worry about what "they" take seriously, but to find people who take what you want to accomplish seriously, and work with them. If you have something to say then eventually others will over hear the conversation and what to join in. Stirling S Newberry [log in to unmask] http://www.mp3.com/ssn