paraphrase- with candidiasis/fluconazole that it is difficult, and expensive to diagnose and treat. Yes the waiting on the culture isa pain- and was expensive. the last time though he insisted on culture cause only days earlier had bee swimmin in the carribean. But my OB and prior physisians have taken an extra slide and sample and put it under the lab microscope ah ha diagnosis of yeast and an initial treatment. IF ou need GV i can get it and would be glad to mail it to anyone who would want some. mechell -----Original Message----- From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> To: Recipients of LACTNET digests <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: LACTNET Digest - 28 Jun 2000 to 29 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-780) *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:25:37 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Nancy Rupert <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Dini Petty show MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I happened to tape this Canadian talk show yesterday (and I gather it might have been a rerun), but the theme was pregnancy and what you need for baby. Dini had invited a physician named Dr. Lance Levy on to talk about common newborn concerns, and he identified feeding issues, and particularly breastfeeding issues as the most common question new mothers have. He then went on to say that the BEST way to tell if your baby is getting enough to eat was to have the dr. weigh and measure the baby. Otherwise, if the baby is generally happy and thriving and going three hours happily between feeds you know its getting enough. Nothing about wet diapers or BMs, signs of dehydration, etc! I was wishing Dini (located in Toronto, Canada) had invited Dr. Jack on instead. :-( Nancy, LLLL in PoCo, BC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:11:30 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Barbara Wilson-Clay <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Austin Lactation Associates Subject: ankyloglossia- Messner ref. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several private posters have requested the ref. on the tongue-tie article I mentioned. To save having to repreat this info I will post to the list. The full ref. is: Messner,A. et al: Ankyloglossia: Incidence and Associated Feeding Difficulties, Arch Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg/Vol 126, Jan 2000. www.archoto.com There are several refs about tongue-tie as a breastfeeding problem in the June 1999 Clin. in Perinatol. vol devoted to breastfeeding. That is such a respectable journal that those are useful as well. Barbara Wilson-Clay, BSEd, IBCLC Austin Lactation Associates http://www.lactnews.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:34:57 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Barbara Wilson-Clay <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Austin Lactation Associates Subject: reflux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just had a cool exper. I've been working for 5 months with a mother who has a little girl who has grown very slowly. Another one of those kids who looks healthy and happy except when eating. Her feeds are very brief, and she pulls away after only a few min. at breast. She only gained 1 lb in the past 7 weeks. Several times she has been seen for respiratory sx that the pedi described as viral. All blood and urine analysis have been normal. Last week, at my urging, the mom asked the pedi to try some baby antacids. Feed length immed. improved, but feeding behavior still not normal. So today, the baby had a swallowing study. I asked if I could accompany and photograph, as I'd like to be able to describe the process to other mothers. It was fascinating! Hope I didn't foul up and expose the film to the radiation. Baby was dx with severe reflux, and threw up 3 oz of barium all over my new black sandles, but OH Well. Now the parents know what the problem is and mom can stop blaming herself. Barbara Wilson-Clay, BSEd, IBCLC Austin Lactation Associates http://www.lactnews.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:25:07 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Kathy Dettwyler <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: statistics clarification Comments: To: [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" All right, maybe I'm not as clear in my own head about this as I should be! In fact, now that I've sat down and figured it out, you're right, it's not 64 times the risk, it's only six times. I stand corrected. First, let's assume that the 1 SIDS death per 1,000 births reflects the rate from birth to 6 months (as you said, it's really only 95% of the SIDS deaths, but let's assume for simplicity that it's 100% of the SIDS deaths, so that no child after 6 months of age will die of SIDS). Let's take 200,000 babies at birth and divide them into 100,000 who will be formula-fed from birth, and 100,000 who will be exclusively breastfed for six months. Let's assume for simplicity that no babies die from anything else during this time either. At the end of six months, in the formula-fed group, we have had 100 deaths from SIDS. At the end of six months, in the breastfed group, we have had 16.39 deaths from SIDS. So it's not 64X the risk, it's only six times the risk. Thanks for helping/forcing me to think this through more realistically! I will post this to LactNet as well. Kathy Dettwyler *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:56:36 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "David C. Page, DDS" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Upper Frenums & Tooth spacing & rotation Comments: cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << could the thick upper frenum cause my daughter's tooth to be turned, or is it coincidental. and, although i am very familiar with info about the problems caused by the lingual frenum, there isn't anything in the information i have about the upper frenums. >> I suspect the tooth being turned is coincidental UNLESS she had a small mouth to begin with....whereby the tooth rotated to "fit" in. My clinical observations match the published literature stating that BF arches are wider, less dentally crowded and thus less crowded at age 6-7 when the adult teeth begin to grow in. YET....it is possible that the frenum is thick enough and the muscle portion attached deep enough into the bony ridge (sometimes visible on x-rays) that an erupting tooth might grow in with a space (diastema) between the two central incisors. Regarding the Upper Frenum....I believe most are a positive factor in that as the latch occurs and the upper lip everts, turns up-and-out, there is a forward pull on the lip and frenum which then places "protraction" forces on the maxilla....very important for forward maxilla & mandbible growth....vs. SUCKING forces which retract...and are backward "retracting" forces that make the jaws and airway smaller. SmileOn, David C. Page, DDS SmilePage.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:23:47 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SIDS and back sleeping and flat heads MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a little slogan that I am promoting BACK TO SLEEP, FRONT TO PLAY, MAKES THE BABY"S HEAD OK :-) I've found young parents absolutely paranoid about putting baby on tummy! at all, ever!! I tell them if baby is playing on tummy and falls asleep, just gently flip them over. I emphasize development of shoulder and neck muscles and how they shouldn't be in one position only, all the time. Sincerely, Pat in SNJ *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:28:29 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: sodium valproate. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Epilim is Depakote or Depakene in US, the generic name is: Valproic acid. It is approved by the AAP for use in BF moms, transfers into br milk at low levels and is also frequently given directly to infants for seizures (Hale, p. 705). Ask the dr (sweetly) to get his own personal copy of the book. I believe a new edition is due out in July :-) Sincerely, Pat in SNJ *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:14:06 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Cathy Liles <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SIDS, risk and MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "At the end of six months, in the formula-fed group, we have had 100 deaths from SIDS. At the end of six months, in the breastfed group, we have had 16.39 deaths from SIDS." So for the "extra" 84 babies that dies and their families can you honestly say breastfeeding doesn't matter? And in fact the breastfeeding rates are no where near that high- if you actually looked at 117 babies that died from SIDS, more than 100 would have been formula fed. Cathy *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:06:01 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "David C. Page, DDS" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Studies connecting FF (Soy) & Diabetes Comments: cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check Pubmed Citation #2338464 "soy-based milk formulas in early life was significantly higher in children with aurtoimmune thyroid disease (31%) vs. siblings (12%)"...which to me means almost 200% increase Check PubMed Citation#3192037 "decrease risk of IDDM was seen among BF" Check PubMed Citation#2060453 "protective effects of BF on risk of IDDM" Check PubMed Citation#3155358 ""twice as many diabetic children received soy containing formula as controls" Smile-On, DCPage, DDS SmilePage.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:20:50 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "David C. Page, DDS" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Early Weight Gain & Diabetes & Another Chuckle Comments: cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pubmed Citation#8150235 Low birth weight babies with early weight gain at 6,9,18 and 30 months of age appears to be a risk factor for development of Type 1 diabetes. Low weight gain in BF compared to FF MAY explain protective eggects of BF against Type 1 Diabetes. OR FF MAY be the MAIN problem! AND For another chuckle for Susan:....pursuant to some of the logic of modern research....we should be able to truly conclude that Lower Birth RATES (not weight this time) WILL Result in Lower Rates of Diabetes as well as many other childhood illnesses even when controlling for BF or FF and other factors deemed relevant or irrelevant to the rantings of this too-long chuckling conclusion. SmileOn, David C. Page, DDS SmilePage.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:32:32 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Incredible book! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Friends; I just received a copy of "The Milk of Human Kindness" which is a global factsheet on the economic value of breastfeeding.It is a joint project of the International Women Count Network and the World Alliance for Breastfeeding Action. I don't know what it costs. It can be obtained by contacting: [log in to unmask] in the USA; for Europe contact [log in to unmask] Besides determining the economic value of human milk, it makes some powerful social commentary. "Between breastfeeding and agricultural work, women are feeding the world!" Another paragraph, "Why do women who contribute by producing the whole workforce have to plead for maternity leave that would allow them to recupterate from childbirth, get to know their children, feed babies the best possible food? Why are such minimal demands so controversial? What qualifies those who favor formula to deny the overwhelming evidence and personal experience which favor breastmilk?" There is a mighty war raging. The commerical and political interests that see the world as made up only of consumers of product which must be produced and paid for are winning. Women are being forced to sacrifice their essence, with a resultant negative impact on ecology and humanity, to sustain this insanity. READ THIS BOOK!! Warmly, Nikki Lee RN, MSN, Mother of 2, IBCLC, CIMI craniosacral therapy practitioner; childbirth educator Elkins Park (a suburb of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; northeastern USA) supporter of the WHO Code and the Mother Friendly Childbirth Initiative *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:39:02 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Katherine Catone <[log in to unmask]> Organization: home Subject: Looking for the MD in Modesto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems like her name was Poinsett? Need to get in touch with her. -- Katherine Catone, LLLL, IBCLC http://www.pe.net/~skcat1/index.html *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:33:44 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: New baby! Comments: To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], shpall family network -- ALAN SHPALL <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], "Pearlstein,Jack" <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], Ilana Kurshan <[log in to unmask]>, Alisa Rubin Kurshan <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], Michael Shpall <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], Moshe Schwartz <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], ORA PEARLSTEIN <[log in to unmask]>, Sam & Sheryl Pearlstein <[log in to unmask]>, Peggy Pearlstein <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], Rani Selvarajoo <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], Shuly Rubin Schwartz <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], "Avital N. Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], molly baker <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], matthew & sharon <[log in to unmask]>, alan & anita <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Elisheva Urbas and David Morris are happy to welcome to the world their new daughter Yemima Levana Morris, born Tuesday afternoon, 6.27.00. Parents, baby, and big sisters Avital and Ronit are all at home, tired and happy. Yemima will be formally named at Shabbat morning services this weekend, July 1st, parashat Shelah, at Minyan M'at, Congregation Ansche Chesed, 251 W. 100th Street, New York. *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:52:22 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: upper frenum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, RE: Upper frenum I remember an excellent article in JHL about the problem a tight upper frenum caused a LLL leaders baby. (Baby had both tight labial and lingual) I don't remember which issue or if it was in JHL. Can anyone refresh and old woman's memory??? (That being me!) My son at age 16 had to have that "trimmed" because his front teeth would not stay together and the orthodontist sent us to an endo? to get it done. Thanks for helping out the old and feeble brained! Denise G Hewson RN IBCLC Katy, Texas (Private Practice) *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:04:13 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Linda Pohl <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Pumping problems In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat, For the mom who has sinuses further up, I have had excellent luck with the personal fit flanges. Linda Pohl, IBCLC Phoenix AZ Given that pumping is an issue for this mom, how to Lori, I had a client whose baby wasn't gaining and who couldn't get milk with a pump unless she used breast compression at the same time. We concluded that her milk sinuses were located farther up on the breast than her baby or the pump flange could reach. So she single pumped and compressed her breast, or she compressed throughout the feeding and all was well. *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:51:14 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "Anne P. Mitchell Young, Esq." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Averting Loss of Supply, and Subsequent Weaning, During Pregnancy Does anybody have any suggestions as to ways a that pregnant mother, who is still nursing (toddler, nursing ~4x per day), can safely increase her supply (or, rather, avoid the pregnancy-related loss of supply), and hopefully avoid her toddler self-weaning? The child does not yet show evidence of self-weaning (mother is only < a month along), however she would like to take any possible precautions to avoid pregnancy-induced weaning. Thanks! Anne *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:45:51 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Edward John Piggott V <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Intro and a question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, My name is Joy. I am the mother of two boys Eddie (c/s 4/20/97, BF for 14 months and regretfully followed Ezzo parenting style loosely) and Roy (unassisted HBAC 11/27/99, BF with an occasional snack of cheerios or rice cake, AP all the way). I have been a Doula for almost two years and I just started as a midwife student. Well, I had the privilege of attending the recent pilot BF and Human Lactation college course and should get official notice in the next week if I can call myself a certified breastfeeding counselor. Now for my question, I would like to take the next step and become an IBCLC. Any suggestions on how to acquire 4000 hours of experience (I have 3 years of college and 50 hours of BF education already) to sit the exam? I probably have 50-100 hours from the last two years of helping friends and Doula clients, but at this rate it is going to take me ten years. One idea I had was to spend an hour or two a day on BF support BB's (like parentsplace, etc.) in addition to teaching a class and other one on one methods. Will online support be accepted by the IBLCE? TIA Basking in the Son, Joy For some anecdotal evidence of sleeping positions, my boys slept on their side until 6 weeks and then tummy until they could roll over in their sleep and choose whatever position they want. They both hated being on their backs and they both had complete head control at a couple of weeks. Eddie slept in a bassinet by our bed until 5 months, then a crib and now they both sleep in our family bed. http://www.primenet.com/~johnny (__) o- )\ |_/\ C- *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:47:52 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Edward John Piggott V <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Forgot to mention In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I live West of Phoenix, AZ. Just in case some kind IBCLC wants to mentor me <G>. Basking in the Son, Joy http://www.primenet.com/~johnny (__) o- )\ |_/\ C- *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:49:37 +0100 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: heather <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SIDS and back sleeping and flat heads In-Reply-To: <200006291900.SM00197@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I have a little slogan that I am promoting BACK TO SLEEP, FRONT TO PLAY, >MAKES THE BABY"S HEAD OK :-) >I've found young parents absolutely paranoid about putting baby on tummy! >at all, ever!! I tell them if baby is playing on tummy and falls asleep, >just gently flip them over. I emphasize development of shoulder and neck >muscles and how they shouldn't be in one position only, all the time. >Sincerely, Pat in SNJ The Foundation for the Study of Infant Deaths in the UK - support group and supporter of research into SIDS - has had to make a point of emphasising this, too. In their newest literature they are explicit that it is *ok* for babies to be on their tummies when awake. They too found in research that parents have misunderstood the 'back to sleep' message and have been frightened to have the baby on its tummy at all. It is a real shame when the joy and the confidence goes out of parenting like this - I know it's a good cause, but even so......it's a lesson on getting the message right the first time. Heather Welford Neil NCT bfc Newcastle upon Tyne UK *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:01:10 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: On-line support MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting question! I'd ask IBLCE. <[log in to unmask]> is the address I have. Another way to accumulate hours is to get involved in LLL and become a leader. Or get involved in WIC as a peer counselor. Good luck! Sincerely, Pat in SNJ *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:52:42 +1000 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Amir family <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SIDS Research MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although we would all really like to think that artificial feeding is a significant risk factor for SIDS - the evidence is not that strong. Although artificial feeding may be a risk factor in some studies on univariate analysis, once other factors (eg smoking) are taken into consideration, feeding method is not significant. Rates of SIDS have plummeted, largely due to change in sleeping position - bf rates have not changed much in the last 10 years or so. I represented the RACGP at a recent SIDS Australia meeting and had to do some background reading to convince myself about this. BTW the conclusion about the flat heads is "no problem". SIDS Australia is working on a new statement which will prob say something about this. Lisa Amir MBBS, MMed, IBCLC in Melbourne, Australia *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:11:13 +1000 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Amir family <[log in to unmask]> Subject: mammary candidosis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <Heinig MJ, Francis J, Pappagianis D. Mammary candidosis in lactating women. Journal of Human Lactation 1999; 15:281-288> In the conclusion of this article, the authors state: "It is prudent to prescribe systemic antifungals only after positive results are obtained by direct microscopy or culture and topical medications have failed to improve the condition". I must be very imprudent, b/c I do neither of these every time I treat a woman with symptoms of nipple/breast thrush. Lisa Amir MBBS, MMed, IBCLC - tired and imprudent on a Friday night! *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:52:36 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: newman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: valproic acid Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On what basis does the neurosurgeon rule out breastfeeding? We use valproic acid in tiny babies. The evidence suggests it is safe with breastfeeding. The mother should do what she feels best on the basis of scientific information. Evidence based medicine doctor!!! That's what they keep hitting us with. Well, now the shoe is on the other foot. Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: newman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: website Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't have a website. But a lot of materials I give out are on other people's websites. Here are two. http://www.erols.com/cindyrn/drjack0.htm or http://www.firstfeast.com/articles/articles.html Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:56:07 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: newman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: dini petty show Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lance Levy whom I know, is the typical product of the Hospital for Sick Children pediatric programme. In other words, the typical resident in paediatrics finishes there knowing less about breastfeeding than the "man in the street". Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:08:17 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "Cindy Curtis, RN, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: looking for these e mail addresses . . . can you help? Comments: cc: LACTIVIST POST <[log in to unmask]> Hello I am looking for the e mail addresses of the following authors of breastfeeding books : Karen Pryor Gail Pryor Gwen Gotch Norma J. Bumgarne Amy Spangler Karen Kerkhoff Gromada William and Martha Sears Janet Tamaro Nancy Mohrbacher Julie Stock Judy Torgus Ruth A. Lawrence My local breastfeeding coalition has just purchased , with grant money we received, 116 breastfeeding books for parents to placed in the local libraries during World Breastfeeding Week this year! We are so excited to be placing so many wonderful books in the local libraries. I wanted to ask all of the book authors from the books we selected for autographed books plates to put in the front of the books. If you can help me locate the above by e mail or other wise, I would really appreciate it. THANKS! Cindy Cindy Curtis, RN IBCLC mailto:[log in to unmask] http://www.erols.com/cindyrn *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:33:34 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: yeast when not nursing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone ever heard of getting a yeast infection in the breast when not nursing. This female has not nursed a child in 30 years. Thanks, Annette leibovitz, IBCLC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:49:17 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Janet Hoover Malo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I-131 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would like some advice about a woman I am working with. She is breastfeeding a 7 month old and needs to have a bone scan using I-131. She had thyroid cancer and an ablation several years ago. They do periodic bone scans looking for cancer and she is over-due. Her doctor is pushing to have it done. I have read the archives and looked at all the text information I can find. I am more than a little confused. Lawrence says that 8 days is enough to pump and dump. Hale says that women should stop breastfeeding several weeks before the procedure, although this may just be for ablation. Others say variations on this theme. The dose will be 3 mCi. Does anyone know what would be best for this mom and babe? Anyone know an expert I could call? Thank you, Janet Hoover Malo, LM, IBCLC Santa Cruz, CA mailto:[log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:01:54 +0200 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Gonneke van Veldhuizen-Staas <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: yeast when not nursing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Has anyone ever heard of getting a yeast infection in the breast when not > nursing. This female has not nursed a child in 30 years. Yes, I've heard of it before. If the woman's partner has some kind of oral yeast and oral-mipple contact is part of their love making, it might very well be passed on (especially if she has a vaginal yeast and that bodypart is caressed by mouth as well). Gonneke van Veldhuizen, IBCLC, living in Maaseik, Belgium http://www.users.skynet.be/eurolac [log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:27:33 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Andrea Eastman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I-131 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Janet, Which type of I-131 will be used? I-131 NaI or I-131-OIH? http://neonatal.ttuhsc.edu/lact/html/radioactive.html Sincerely, Andrea -- Andrea Eastman, MA, CCE, IBCLC Granville, Ohio ~ mailto:[log in to unmask] http://www.geocities.com/gentlebirthalt *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:07:14 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: newman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I131 Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I 131 is definitely a no no. In fact, it could appear in the milk for up to 6 weeks after the dose. There does not appear to be any pressing need to have this test done right now. Why not wait until she has stopped breastfeeding when she wants to? Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:13:09 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Chuck Knight <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Yeast/Not BF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had breast yeast since my youngest son weaned 3/97. I live in = south Georgia where it gets to 100+ degrees with extremely high = humidity. The childbirth and lactation office where I work is across = the street from the hospital. I make several trips across to the = hospital each day. I also have three very active boys who are involved = in lots of different. This means there is alot of time in the van when = it does not have time to cool off before it is time to stop again. (We = live in a small town) All this combined with satin bra can lead to a = yeast infection starting on the skin and spreading to the nipples if = left untreated. I switched to all cotton bra's and wear a clean one = each day. I have not had a problem since. Seems easy but it worked for = me. =20 Good Luck! Debra Knight, R.N., ICCE In SW Georgia where the drought has been awful=20 but recent afternoon showers a blessing *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:28:22 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Jay Gordon <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 29 Jun 2000 to 30 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-784) Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A mom in my practice had to wean her daughter at age 14 months because she had had nine breast infections and had tried "everything." Her son is two months old she has had 3 infections at three different locations so far. She is trying cabbage leaves, echinacea and elderberry and I have suggested all the usual remedies including frequent nursing and "emptying" and looser bras. Any added words of wisdom for her? Jay Gordon, MD, IBCLC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:48:15 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "Stearns, Crystal" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Nurse JD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain If anyone on Lactnet is a Nurse Attorney/Nurse JD please contact me personally at [log in to unmask] Thanks Crystal Stearns RNC, MS, IBCLC Mercy Memorial Health Center Ardmore, OK 73401 *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:27:40 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "Valerie W. McClain, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SIDS & infants with metabloic disorders in fatty acid catabolism MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the following in a patent for infant formula (patent # 5,686,491) and was wondering whether this belief that 3% of SIDS is caused by metabolic disorders is still considered true. Does anyone have information on the following deficiencies in relationship to breastfeeding: MCAD, LCAD, SCAD and MADD? "SIDS also called Cot or Crib Death is generally conceived as due to an anatomical functional immaturity of the neural networks that control vital functions such as heart rate and respiratory patterns. It is estimated that 3% of SIDS are due to metabolic disorders. Evidence is accumulating to indicate that abrupt increases in free fatty acids of one sort or another is the major factor that causes unexpected disruption of the control of vital function. The concept of metabolic SIDS began in the mid-1980s with the recognition of the association between SIDS and an inherited defect of one of the 10 or so sequential enzymes of fatty acid oxidation system. Infants with nonspecific failure to thrive are often determined to have low plasma carnitine levels." Valerie W. McClain, IBCLC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:30:59 EDT Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: "Shirley Morris, RN, IBCLC, LMT" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 29 Jun 2000 to 30 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-784) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think anyone could develop yeast of the nipple, and it could possibly travel in the ducts through sexual foreplay if the woman has a vaginal yeast infection. Inadvertantly, she or her partner could bring the yeast from the vaginal area up to the nipple. I'm sure it's not common, but very possible. Also it could be a sign of diabetes, since diabetic tissue is a good host for yeast. Any more ideas out there? Shirley Morris, RN, IBCLC, LMT *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:57:38 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: gima <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 29 Jun 2000 to 30 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-784) In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:28 PM 6/30/00 EDT, you wrote: >A mom in my practice had to wean her daughter at age 14 months because she >had had nine breast infections and had tried "everything." Her son is two >months old she has had 3 infections at three different locations so far. She >is trying cabbage leaves, echinacea and elderberry and I have suggested all >the usual remedies including frequent nursing and "emptying" and looser bras. >Any added words of wisdom for her? Does she take antibiotics for her infections? I have found that most cases of mastitis are non-infective--inflamatory--and do not need antibiotics. The use of antibiotics weakens the immune system and invites a recurrence of infection. Anti-inflamatory meds such as ibuprofen are what I recommend for treatment. I also recommend echinacea for boosting the immune system. The mom takes 400mg of ibuprofen every 4 hours for 24 hours, accompanied by rest and frequent feeding and cabbage leaf compresses. Since I have been using this treatment (as gleaned from Lactnet) I have not had any clients who did not feel marked improvement within 24 hours. During the next 24 all is resolved. To prevent recurring cases I ask the mom to check for anemia. If there is no anemia or other immune system problems, I find that the most effective treatment for the recurring cases is lecethin capsules (or granules). I recommend 3-4 gelcaps a day and my clients have reported full success. (Ruth Lawrence mentions the granules for recurring mastitis, but I have found that the capsules work fine.) It seems that my clients who have repeated non-infective mastitis (based on plugged ducts) also have babies who gain a lot of weight. It is my thought that these mothers have a high fat level in their milk and can more easlily find themselves with a blocked duct. The lecethin works to break down the fats so that milk flows more easily. Lecethin granules are used in cooking to break down fats in a sauce or stew, is a food substance, and is fully safe for mother and baby. Of course, there are the mechanical causes--underwire bras, sleeping with bras, a baby carrier that constricts ducts, or pressing on the breast during feedings. Pat Gima, IBCLC Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:[log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:02:11 +1000 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Virginia G Thorley <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Correct email address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am still receiving the occasional email to my *old* email address, = as the old hotmail address is on pre-June 1999 postings of mine in the = Lactnet Archives. As I only sporadically check the old address, = messages may not be read and replied to for some time. Please note that my correct email address is: [log in to unmask] (Yes, I'm NO MAIL at the moment, and for the = next few weeks.) Cheers, Virginia in sunny Brisbane (after thick fog earlier in the week) *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:59:58 -0400 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Jeanette Panchula <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I 131 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It was JUST this case that I learned the Power of Woman... Mom was told she could not breastfeed due to needing to have this done. = She asked : you mean I can NEVER breastfeed? She was told - no, you coul= d breastfeed after it gets out of your system, but it would be too difficul= t - you would have to pump and dump for 6 weeks. = She answered - DON't tell me what is too difficult - tell me what I need= to do and let ME decide if it is too difficult... She DID pump and dump for 6, then 8 weeks (her physicist uncle tested her= milk every 3 days after 6 weeks until it was clear), then resumed providi= ng her baby with breast milk - baby would no longer breastfeed - but mom pumped and fed her milk to her baby for over 9 months - baby was over 1 y= r old when she stopped pumping. She's now a trainer for Peer Counselors... That's where I met her, at th= e LLLI training. Jeanette Panchula, BSW, RN, IBCLC Vacaville, CA *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:44:15 -0500 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Susan R Potts <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Loni/flucanozole MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Loni, Sounds like a power struggle. Aarrgghh! A midwife called me several of weeks ago for info on diflucan; the dose used to treat chlamydia is 200 mg only ONE time. The dose recommended by Hale is huge compared to that, 200 mg loading dose, then 100-200 mg X 10 to 14 days. She was concerned, and probably rightly so, with liver damage........Any comments out there on this?? I read to her all that Hale wrote on the subject, and said most HCPs try topical measures first, with both mom and baby, and use the diflucan with recurring incidences. I happened to talk to the patient a couple of weeks afterward, and the topicals were helping. Susan in Minnesota rn ibclc ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:21:36 -0700 Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> From: Monique Schaefers <[log in to unmask]> Subject: She is here MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Melissa Lani Schaefers born June 23rd at 9:16 AM 9 pounds 3 ounces and 21 inches long We got to the hospital at 8:15 AM with me afraid they would send us home for false labor. I was at 8-9 CM dilated! She was born just an hour later with no pain medications. Yahoo! She is beautiful!!! She breastfeeds like she was born to it. ;-) -- Monique [log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html