Natalie What you said about "intervening" early makes good sense in the setting you describe. Traci said her baby, born at home, *latched on briefly* after a good birth and then slept x 16 hrs. Remember, baby DID take a feeding, even if brief, and then slept next to mom and was offered breast and did lick etc. So I think this is normal and fine. The cases that Natalie works with I'm sure are very different than this. So I agree, for all the reasons Natalie states (getting ebm in baby, avoiding formula, initiating milk supply, avoiding wt loss, etc) that earlier "intervention" is indicated. I think the word "intervention" sounds harsh but I take it to mean a step taken to assist a client. I think Barbara Wilson-Clay said once that helping with positioning by using a pillow or towel roll is also an intervention, so we don't have to get scared when that word is used. Thanks, Natalie, for sharing and you are right it is helpful to always think about these things and since you have a very valid rationale for your actions, I would trust your professional judgement. Keep up the good work. And remember my motto (though I did not invent this phrase) - Live and Learn! Laurie Wheeler, RN, MN, IBCLC Violet Louisiana, s.e. USA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html