It appears that in the European Union, the next directive controlling the honey standard will effectively allow for the very fine filtration of honeys- commonly referred to as Ultra-filtrated here in France. It has been argued for by the so called"Anglo-saxon" lobby, i.e. countries in the north of the Union. Several countries are totally against the idea that this process should become a norm. for honeys that appear before the consumer. It has been argued that it is a process that allows for the removal of un-wanted debris from honey(The conditioners lobby). It has also been argued that it is the process that will allow for more fraudulent merchandise onto the market, since the removal of such items as pollen grains from the honey limits the proof of geographical origin and/or honey type. As producers, what are the opinions held regarding this process when applied to honey. Is it generally accepted by beekeepers in the States and else where, or considered as an excellent wheeze to be used by conditioners of honey? Do conditioners really require this process to make their production simpler? Has it been put in place/being put in place due to demand from consumer?, or is it due to "responsible" bureaucrats insisting on again a super clean product -one in this case, when relating to the definition of what honey is, results in the final product no longer being honey. Honey put simply is a product created by bees from, from which nothing may be added or taken away.( hence therefore the labeling of Honey as "Pure" honey is technically incorrect - if the product is added to /or something taken away , it is nolonger honey!!). Regards Peter