Janet In our current hospital culture and in the greater community culture, I too feel that bf can be salvaged sometimes with a nipple shield prior to hosp discharge or else bf will be abandoned altogether. I am not just making this up, the parents are telling me they are ready to give up bf and are ready for the formula. Sad but true, and with all the greatest respect and admiration for Dr. Jack. I don't like it, but I feel if more of the hcps in the hosp and community were like Dr. Jack this would not be the case. Laurie Wheeler, RN, MN, IBCLC Violet Louisiana, s.e. USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html