Jeffrey Hall wrote: >Dear CM fans, In regards to Beethoven 5th symphony, how does the famous >Carlos Kleiber recording compare to the 1977 von Karajan recording? I've >seen both recommended and both are supposed to be hard-driven. Thanks.:-) Although you didn't ask... I've heard those, and still prefer Bruno Walter's Columbia Symphony Orchestra by far. If the others are "hard-driven", then his is ride in a Rolls-Royce. Miguel Muelle [log in to unmask] www.mindspring.com/~mmuelle