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BEE-L  October 2007, Week 4

BEE-L October 2007, Week 4

Subject:

CCD 2007 (was Don't Tell)

From:

Bob Harrison <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology <[log in to unmask]>

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>We've a new group of failing colonies in operations that did not have the
problem last year, as well as at least two repeats.

I would sure like to speak with these guys. I have been asking every
beekeeper I contact and can't seem to find these beekeepers.

>And, I just got an urgent phone call.  Another east coast operation  going
down, hundreds of colonies lost.  And, many of these were in the  Dakotas
earlier in the year.

East coast? A clue!

>Your don't tell advice to beekeepers is fine, if you don't want  to find a
solution.

I don't give don't tell advice! However most U.S. commercial beekeepers know
what they tell me stays with me. If I betrayed their trust I would get the
same information you get most of the time!

 >  Can't get  all around  the U.S., but we can pick and choose some
operations to  sample.

The small number of samples which led to the Penn State conclusions is
almost
laughable. ONE AUSTRALIAN SAMPLE PACKAGE! Their conclusions about Australia/
IAPV virus is laughable.

Their documentation of virus for which the only solution we already know is
a big waste of CCD research money in my opinion and I will go on record as
saying I oppose giving Penn State money for virus research.

 No cure for virus! Period! End of story! The reason Bailey
was never given only minor research money.

"Control varroa and you control virus"

WORKS FOR ME!

I am afraid (my opinion) that if Penn State continues to blame Australia
(their hypothesis which they seem to hold onto (current ABJ) despite all the
best research minds saying only weak hypothesis and IAPV could have been
here for decades or is simply a variation of KBV) they could lose some of
their
research funds through a lawsuit.

16 times in the Science article they point the finger at Australian imports
as the source of IAPV  which is totally unprovable. How did IAPV get into
Australia from Israel? There have been no imports?

Maybe IAPV (both U.S. & Australia) came off a off a container ship like we
have received most our pests here in the U.S.! Maybe IAPV has been around
for a 100 years and now we are just finding the virus?

I agree completely with Jim Fischer! The Science article is the worse bee
article ever published! Science should have never published the article
without at least reading the information!

 Australia is still waiting for an apology ( as advised by Jim Fischer in
his Bee Culture article). Penn State defending a flawed article is not
helping!

>We will look
at a broad screening for virus, and we will be  looking at in-hive
chemicals.

Forget the virus issue! In the new ABC XYZ only three pages are devoted to
virus. In my opinion a single page would have been enough.

>To all Bee-L readers - if you depend on your bees for your primary income
and have been in the business for several years or more, and are having a
problem with bees abandoning hives, please contact us.

I agree with Jerry! If you are having the above problems contact Jerry.

bob



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