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BEE-L  November 2001, Week 2

BEE-L November 2001, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Kosher honey

From:

"From the Gussow's of Tucson,Arizona - Don't worry it's a dry heat!" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:27:46 -0700

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By a message sent by: Lloyd Spear [[log in to unmask]]
        "2.  Kosher Honey must be so "anointed" by a Rabbi."
Reply: Sorry I don't think so unless you are sitting down to eat a meal with
Honey and any other thing that is just as Kosher and that would be "Grace"
before the meal. How ever Mr. Spear is in the "Cat Bird Seat" as his
wonderful "Ross Rounds" are "Kosher" without any special inspection that I
know. Virgin Material as designated as such can be "Parve". You just might
look into that Lloyd for yourself.
        Since I posted my remarks, and not being a monitor, but for a
clearer understanding and misunderstanding of my religion. It's not "Church"
its "Synagogue" or "Synagog". Here is my source: "RANDOM HOUSE WEBSTER'S
COLLEGE DICTIONARY" 2000 Second Revised and Updated Random House Edition,
April 2000 ISBN:0-375-42560-8" page 1327 right column forth definition from
the bottom,   "syn-a-gogue or syn-a-gog , n. 1. a Jewish house of worship,
often having facilities for religious instruction or serving as a community
center. 2. a congregation of Jews for the purpose of religious worship. 3.
Rare the Jewish religion; Judaism. [ 1125-75:< LL sysagoga < Gk   syngoge
assembly, meeting = syn- SYN-+ agogè, n. use of fem. of  agogós  (adj.)
gathering; see  -AGOGUE]  - syn'a·gog?i·cal ect..."
        Only to find that there is a site known as www. Dictionary.com  that is an
on site dictionary and translator.
From Dictionary.com:
syn·a·gogue also syn·a·gog (sn-gg, -gôg)
n.
1. A building or place of meeting for worship and religious instruction in
the Jewish faith.
2. A congregation of Jews for the purpose of worship or religious study.
3. The Jewish religion as organized or typified in local congregations.


[Middle English, from Old French sinagoge, from Late Latin synagga, from
Greek sunagg, assembly, synagogue, from sunagein, to bring together  : sun-,
syn- + agein, to lead; see ag- in Indo-European Roots.]

syna·gogi·cal (-gj-kl) or syna·gogal (-ggl, -gôg-) adj.
This e-mail has taken me three days to get it altogether along with other
things that I have to do for myself. But for the sake of  all I will
continue. The synagogue movement is older than the rabbinical one as it was
formed after the disturction of the first Temple the Jewish people were in
total banishment to persha ,Now Iran, and under restrictions. See the book
of Ester. Honey in the Middle East has always been a sign of wealth and
abundance.  Uncertified honey is kosher only if you don't play games like
adding things to it or over filtering it. The real problem is just what is
allowed for processing for the grocery shelves I do not know or care to know
but they do get some sort of certification anyway. The whole history of food
purity is that is adulterated  olive oil was being passed as Kosher. But
that's another story.
        The story about the apples and honey is a custom for Rosh Hashanah which
marks the beginning of the New Year. It is a representation of a wish for a
full (round) year, Apple, and sweet year, Honey. Some people send apples and
honey to their friends and relatives at that time of the year. (August
through September but dependant upon the Hebrew Calendar.)
        From Dictionary.com:
        ko·sher (kshr) also ka·sher (kä-)
adj.
1. Judaism.
a. Conforming to dietary laws; ritually pure: kosher meat.
b. Selling or serving food prepared in accordance with dietary laws: a
kosher restaurant.
2. Slang.
a. Legitimate; permissible: "consolidating noneditorial functions of the
papers, which is kosher" (Christian Science Monitor).
b. Genuine; authentic.

tr.v. ko·shered, ko·sher·ing, ko·shers
To make proper or ritually pure.


[Yiddish kosher, from Ashkenazi Hebrew kóer, from Hebrew kr, fitting,
proper, from kr, to be fitting, to succeed. See kr in Semitic Roots.]
ka·sher (käshr)
adj. & v.
Variant of kosher.
 While I did use the kashrut in one of my messages I think you will
understand via dictonar.com :
kash·rut also kash·ruth (käshrth, -rs, käsh-rt)
n.
1. The state of being kosher.
2. The body of Jewish dietary law.


[Mishnaic Hebrew karût, from kr, fitting. See kosher.]
Here the second definition is appropriate as it is continuing to be written
or changes made when certain machinery is used or chemicals are added to one
reason or another.
        Most of this would be easy to understand but its all upon the authority who
work in Hebrew to begin with. It's difficult to understand sometimes to
understand until you only can guess what is being said or when they answer
those questions on food in question.
As confusing this subject is I hope that I have given you some insight?
Respectfully Submitted
Harvey Gussow

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