Hi Everyone,
I worked with one baby who had been using a Calma. Mother had been told in
the hospital that her nipples were too big and that she had to pump and
bottle feed until baby grew. At 2 months the mother called me to help
transfer to the breast. Baby had been fed all this time with a Calma
bottle. Mom had a full milk supply and was practically bursting when we
met, having put off pumping that morning. I put Mom and Babe skin to skin.
Baby went to the breast and gulped milk like crazy. As soon as the flow
slowed down she fell asleep. I hung out with the mother until the baby
woke. This time the baby would not go back to the breast and got
hysterical. We tried to give her the Calma but she would not take it.
Apparently, after the instant easy reward of Mom's over full breast she
did not have the patience for a bottle that needed to be sucked in order to
flow. Mom finally calmed her down with a standard bottle. I do not know
why, but we never did get this baby to breastfeed - lots of skin to skin,
milk supply kept up, nursing after bottle... nothing worked and I can't
remember if she ever went back to the Calma or not but I was impressed by a
bottle that took more patience and sucking than the mother's over full to
bursting breast. By the way, mother's nipples weren't large at all (she
took a size medium nipple shield).
I would be interested to see if it would help other babies transfer from
bottle to breast.
All the best,
Chayn in Israel, IBCLC
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:37 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Just got a call from a mom that I've been working with for a while with
> ALL kinds of issues from low supply to tongue-tie (posterior). Got the
> CALMA to her. Her report is that after a week's use, baby's suck has
> improved tremendously and goes wonderfully back and forth from breast to
> bottle! I know this bottle was not meant to be therapeutic - but it's
> helping! The baby loves the softer breast. Will update the list as things
> go better!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Catherine Watson Genna BS, IBCLC
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: calma bottles
>
> Teaching the chomper to suck would be a compelling use for the Calma, if
> it turns out to actually work. Let us know, Linda. One can make a
> cheaper suction-only feeder by threading a Hazelbaker fingerfeeder tube
> through a Playtex NaturaLatch nipple, and placing the fingerfeeder in
> the bottle holder instead of a 'drop in' bag.
> And it's easier to clean.
>
> And I agree with Virginia that the biggest concern about going back and
> forth between breast and bottle is the stiff, 'preformed' teat of the
> bottle vs. forming a teat with the breast. And that was never tested.
> Sometimes the questions that weren't asked in research are much more
> important than those that were. Look at all the artificial milk studies
> that only focus on growth, and not on health.
>
> Catherine Watson Genna BS, IBCLC NYC cwgenna.com
>
>
> On 1/20/2012 9:43 AM, Linda Hill wrote:
> > So, I am one of those lactation boutiques carrying the new calma
> bottles. I
> > definitely was excited about the new bottle being research based and all.
> > The studies they recite sounded wonderful too. Medela's studies showed
> > total milk intake was greater from the breast than calma although the
> rate
> > of milk transfer and volume per suck were not different. So, deciding to
> > conduct my own this morning after reading all the negative views on
> lactnet
> > . this is what I found.
> >
> > be
> >
> > Using the symphony pump with 21mm flange (for standard neck as well as
> wide
> > mouth) and at 6 bars expression phase (128 mmHg), I compared to avent and
> > the blue enfamil nipple all for 60 seconds.
> >
> > Avent removed 15cc
> >
> > Enfamil removed 19cc
> >
> > Calma removed 30cc
> >
> >
> >
> > So, yes, it appears fast! It doesn't drip and it requires suction.
> Maybe a
> > good bottle to teach the chomper to suck? Hmph.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Linda Hill RN, IBCLC
> >
> > Capital Pediatric Group
> >
> > 512-454-4545 x 235
> >
> > www.capitalpediatrics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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