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At 05:14 PM 4/19/96 -0400, you wrote:
>There are 11 messages totalling 310 lines in this issue.
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>Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. Doing what's best for the child -Reply
> 2. Late solids eaters
> 3. Dental note - Bed Wetting!
> 4. DHA
> 5. 18 Mo Old (Linda Vokovitsch)
> 6. [Fwd:galactoria]
> 7. buttons and bumper stickers
> 8. Strep B and dark green colostrum
> 9. Labor analgesia: one physician's perspective
> 10. Baby Suffocating
> 11. Working with teen moms
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:00:13 -0400
>From: Margery Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Doing what's best for the child -Reply
>
>I agree with you, Kathy, but I would also add that some
>women don't do what's best for their child because it seems
>an unreachable goal. For instance, I really should only feed
>my family organic foods -- but I've written that off as one thing
>I will never accomplish. I understand that it would be better
>for my child to do so.
>
>ANYWAY, I think that breastfeeding is perceived by many
>woman as something that is difficult, complicated, and
>something they could never achieve. In the population I serve
>(international, college educated) the women are so driven by
>other goals (school, career) and their lives so darned
>scheduled, that breastfeeding --even if initiated -- seems like
>an impossible longterm undertaking. In fact, with the way
>some women try to maintain their "previous life" after having
>the baby, breastfeeding *is* nearly impossible. The "bottle
>culture" model is at odds with the bf reality. And the things
>that make bf so easy (taking baby with you, baby-led
>schedule) seem infeasible to many of our sisters.
>
>TGIF. I had some deeper thoughts but I forgot them. Time to
>go home....
>Margery Wilson, IBCLC
>
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:50:51 -0400
>From: "- Patricia E. Predmore" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Late solids eaters
>
>I have a close friend and respected colleague who battle with pediatricians
>over each of her five children. Incidentally her father is a pediatrician
>and her mother a pediatric nurse practitioner who supported her 100%. She
>gave solids to her children when they could pick them up and put them in
>their own mouths. She figured that the ability to do this signified
>sufficient motor development and desire. She'd just plop applesauce, soft
>vegies, etc. in front of them and let them at it.
>
>She'd taught with me and I admired her straighforward approach to children
>and parenting. Even with breastfeeding, years ago when I would get all
>caught up on teaching # of feeds per 24 hours and all sorts of "rules" about
>breastfeeding, she would tug on my sleeve, look me square in the eye and say,
> "Pat, what did the cave women do?" Although this was stretching the point a
>bit, it always hit home. I've learned to look at the needs of the mom and
>baby more and less at the "rules".
>
>Pat Predmore, RN, BSN, ICCE
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:54:49 -0400
>From: "Brian Palmer, D.D.S." <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Dental note - Bed Wetting!
>
>Why breastfed children do not bedwet as much after the age of 5.
>
>Next assignment: - To better understand this statement I recommend you read
>the following articles:
>
>"Nocturnal enuresis in children with upper airway obstruction", Weider, DJ,
>Sateia, MJ, Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery, Vol.105, No 3, Sept 1991,
>p427 to 432.
>
>"Rapid maxillary expansion in the treatment of nocturnal enuresis", Timms,
>Don J., The Angle Orthodontist, Vol.60, No 3, 1990, pages 229 - 233.
>
>Compromised airway space can be a contributing factor to bed wetting, night
>mares and night terrors. Not breastfeeding can compromise the airway. The
>above 2 articles show good success rates at stopping bed wetting!
>
>Will cover this more at confernece. Looking forward to meeting you!
>
>"We only see what we know, therefore we must know to serve."
>
>Brian Palmer DDS
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:17:46 -0500
>From: "katherine a. dettwyler" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: DHA
>
>I just received a marketing brochure from ICI (Intelligent Choice
>International), makers of DHA from tuna fish eye-socket oil. I want to
>share one part of it with you [remember that this was written by someone
>whose native language is Japanese]:
>
>Industry has undertaken the marketing and sales of various fish oils and
>fish oil-derived products. In order to illustrate the interest of large
>pharmaceutical and food companies, we attach promotional material prepared
>by Hoffman LaRoche of Switzerland and by Martek Corporation of Columbia,
>Maryland. It should be mentioned that the Martek product called Formulaid,
>which contains a mixture of DHA and arachidonic acid (an omega-6 PUFA
>essential to growth of the embryo and fetus) and is marketed in Europe, is
>still awaiting lengthy United States Food and Drug Administration approval
>procedures in the U.S. due to its marine algae origin. However, there are
>no such limitations of any kind on the immediate use of such a mixture based
>on the extra virgin tuna oil we produce.
>
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>Katherine A. Dettwyler, Ph.D. email: [log in to unmask]
>Anthropology Department phone: (409) 845-5256
>Texas A&M University fax: (409) 845-4070
>College Station, TX 77843-4352
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:26:34 -0600
>From: Joyce Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: 18 Mo Old (Linda Vokovitsch)
>
>I know where you're coming from. My first child wouldn't eat
>solids on a daily basis until he was 16 1/2 months old. He
>wouldn't take a bottle until 2 1/2 yrs. old, when I was 8 months
>pregnant. When his sister was born he went right back to
>nursing. He also would never take meds. He had a fabulous gag
>reflex. My next three children ate anything from anywhere,
>nursed less often (not 40 min. of every hour), and weaned
>younger. I raised them all the same!
>-Joyce M.
>
>
> T. Michelle Ramsey C.B.E. wrote:
>>
>> I have a 11 (almost 12 Mo) Mo old who refused solid food until two days ago.
>> He will eat maybe four bites if we're lucky (in a day).
>>
>> Michelle Ramsey CBE
>> [log in to unmask]
>
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:26:22 -0600
>From: Joyce Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: [Fwd:galactoria]
>
>Norma,
>Maybe this would give some ideas to help mom who had
>hysterectomy with subsequent galactoria.
>
>> Joyce Mitchell wrote:
>> >
>> > >From Fertility,Cycles and Nutrition by Marilyn Shannon 1990
>> > published by Couple to Couple League pg50-51"The
hypothalamus
>> > controls prolactin primarily through inhibition, not
>> > stimulation, and prolactin will rise abnormally if it is not
>> > properly controlled. Dopamine is the "prolactin-inhibiting
>> > factor". Vitamin B6 reduces prolactin levels through
>> > stimulation of dopamine production*. Magnesium is also
>> > necessary for dopamine synthesis, and so contributes to normal
>> > levels of prolactin, along with vitamin B6. Zinc may also
>> > suppress prolactin levels**. Interestingly, hypoglycemia is a
>> > potent stimulus for prolactin release."
>> > *Delitala,G.,A. Masala,S.Alagna, and L. Devilla, 1976. Effect of
>> > pyridoxine on...J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 42:603ff.
>> > **Abraham,G.,M.D., and R.Rumley, M.D., 1987. Role of nutrition
>> > in managing the premenstrual tension syndrome. Infertility2:412
>> >
>> > Also on page 128 ...galactorrhea most often indicating excessive
>> > prolactin secretion...It mentions that "fairly high amts. of B6
>> > (300-600mg/day)may be necessary to lower prolactin levels
>> > significantly, but magnesium in generous amts.(800-1000mg/day)
>> > may make less B6 necessary" ..unheated unrefined safflower oil
>> > taken daily and evening primrose oil being usefull. ..Get
>> > nutritional and medical counseling. Refer doctor to research of E.N.
McIntosh.
>> Also the book said that galactoria could be caused
>> by hypothyroid, or hyperthyroid (rarely). "An evaluation by an
>> endocrinologist can and should be done to determine cause..".
>> Very elevated or very low, waking, basal temps can indicate
>> elevated or low thyroid respectively.
>> This is a really great book for resolving female problems
>> nutritionally.
>> -Joyce M.
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:29:08 -0500
>From: "katherine a. dettwyler" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: buttons and bumper stickers
>
>I just got a nice pink button in the mail, that came from a source in South
>Africa, that says "Affordable Health Care Starts With Breastfeeding" --
>wasn't it just yesterday that someone posted to LactNet about the originator
>of this slogan? I also have the bumper sticker ("Begins" instead of
>"Starts") that I bought at a Texas Area LLLI conference in 1994.
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>Katherine A. Dettwyler, Ph.D. email: [log in to unmask]
>Anthropology Department phone: (409) 845-5256
>Texas A&M University fax: (409) 845-4070
>College Station, TX 77843-4352
>
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:40:32 -0400
>From: Dany Gauthier <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Strep B and dark green colostrum
>
>Hi Lactnetters!
>
>There is a patient at the hospital that developped fever due to Strep B
>during delivery. She has now been on Ampicillin and Gentamycin for 48 hours.
>Hospital will not let her feed her baby because her colostrum is dark green
>in color!!!She says she dod not eat or take anything that coul cause that
>colour (seaweed, vitamins,gatorade...etc) What do you think caused the
>color? In your opinion can she breastfeed? In Lawrence and Auerbach and
>Riordan, they say she can!
>
>Dany
>Dany Gauthier IBCLC
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>Montreal, Canada
>Tel: 514-923-3792
>Fax:514-923-3802
>
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>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:42:05 -0600
>From: Joyce Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Labor analgesia: one physician's perspective
>
>Dr. Graham, The women before drugs, and after were being,
>ripped off because they weren't getting proper support (to give
>the pain meaning and value) for natural birth. Also had someone
>lessened its bite with natural techniques it wouldn't have been
>so traumatizing. And after you brought them knowledge of drugs
>you must know that what a woman asks for in labor is not always
>what she wants or needs.
>-Joyce M
>
>
> Karen Graham wrote:
>>
>> Upon my wife's encouragement I reviewed the recent discussions about
>> the use of epidural analgesia for the relief of labor pain. I would
>> liketo take advantage of the opportunity to add my own perspective
>> to the discourse....
>> I did little to change this community perception
>> about labor analgesia for three years. As a consequence there are
>> now women in this community who will never forgive me for reassuring
>> them that their labors-from-hell were natural, normal, and would
>> ultimately be remembered as edifying....
>>
>> I was reluctant to return to offering epidurals based upon my previous
>> experience. ... Never-the-less there was still the patient's
>> desires to be respected. For us the answer has been found in the use
>> of intrathecal (spinal) analgesia.
>> When we first started using this technique
>> five years ago about 30% of our patients immediately requested it and
>> responded favorably. Since then this technique has become known simply as
>> "that shot" and is requested by about 80% of the laboring mothers - the
>> cultural expectations have completely changed.
>>
>> Stephen B. Graham, D.O.
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:56:23 -0400
>From: "Judy K. Dunlap, RNC, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Baby Suffocating
>
>>3. Where are the articles about the babies that die every year from ABM
>>feeding? Or from accidents that might happen because the parents are a room
>>away from their babies, and cannot hear what's going on?
>
>What about an article detailing infant death rates from car accidents?
> Children are at enormously greater risk of death and injury in a car than in
>their parents' bed. If we health care providers really want to make an
>impact, we should advise parents never to take their babies out in a
>car--that would save many, many lives each year. Of course, that advice
>wouldn't be well received in this culture, so instead we explain how to keep
>a child safe in a car seat. Any deaths that occur despite use of a car seat
>are considered exceptional.
>
>Oh, wait, I have a novel idea! Perhaps we could explain how to co-sleep
>safely--no alcohol, no drugs, no waterbeds, etc. Then the rare deaths that
>occur could be considered exceptional rather than the result of a perverse
>and unnatural practice.
>
>What do you think? Will it fly?
>
>Judy Dunlap, RNc, BA, IBCLC
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:13:31 -0400
>From: Petra Ulrych <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Working with teen moms
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm giving a talk to pregnant teen moms at an alternative high school on
>Monday about breastfeeding. Have any of you worked with teen moms? What
>tips or advice would you give me? With any luck, we'll start LLL series
>meetings with these moms.
>
>Petra Ulrych
>LLL Leader
>mom to Anthony and Eliza (2 1/2 and 1 and both avid nursers)
>Denver, Colorado
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>End of LACTNET Digest - 19 Apr 1996 - Special issue
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>
Steven, son of Grant, the son of Don-the same Don who tilled soil in Idaho,
then gave up the ghost.
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