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From: Automatic digest processor [mailto: [log in to unmask]]To: [log in to unmask]: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:40:43 -0400Subject: LACTNET Digest - 2 Oct 2004 - Special issue (#2004-1228)There are 8 messages totalling 357 lines in this issue.Topics in this special issue:1. DNA rich foods2. How much Mik?3. BM in NICU (2)4. weight gain, charts, etc.5. Babies who don't suck6. DNA (DHA?:)) rich foods7. DHA rich foods was:LACTNET Digest - 1 Oct 2004 - Special issue(#2004-1224)Lactnet Archives are at:LACTNET Archives http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.htmlTo Manage your Subscription, ie go nomail, index, etc, go to:http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.htmlThanks- Kathleen Bruce, Kathy Koch, Rachel Myr,Melissa Vickers, Karen Zeretzke, Karleen Gribble, LACTNET FacilitatorsQuestions to [log in to unmask]***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:03:50 -0400From: Anne Nans Subject: DNA rich foodsFoods rich in LNA (alph-linolenic aci) are found in plant sources such =as flax seed or meal, flax oil, canola oil, canola oil mayonnaise, =walnuts, walnut oil, Brazil nuts, soybeans, wheat germ, and raw spinach. =The body donverts LNA into DHA. DHA can also be found in cold-water =fish such as salmon, mackerel, trout, sardines, tuna, and fish oils =(wild fish caught in uncontaminated waters are best). LA (linoleic =acid) rich foods are safflower oil, sunflower seed oil, soybean oil, and =sesame seed oil. These oild are best if unrefined and cold pressed. =Beware of transfats where these good oils are changed in the unnatural =heating process to be harmful. Trans fats exist in most fast food, =fried food, most packaged chips, cookies, margarine and shortening. =It's gotten much easier to find these items with "no trans fats" as many =companies are trying to do better, thankfully.I have no problems talking to mothers about healthy eating during =breastfeeding. There is a real thirst out there for ways to improve =health. Depleted Mother Syndrome is a real problem out there, and =improving nutrition is one way to improve overall physical and mental =well being. Mothers who eat well themselves are more likely to feed =their children better during weaning and beyond. It's not hard or =expensive to add a handful of walnuts or sunflower seeds to the diet, or =to spread a little wheat germ or cold pressed flax seed oil on top of =cereal.Anne Nans, RN, IBCLCSackets Harbor, NYwww.breastfeedingservicesofnny.com***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:15:35 -0500From: doulamary Subject: How much Mik?Wise OnesI have a question for you to consider, how much..as in ounces, would youguesstimate that a toddler would need to eat to gain the benefits ofimmunities found in breastmilk? This question was asked by a very worriedmom, whose baby was very ill and in and out of the hospital her first yearof life with a serious gastrointestinal bug that really zapped her. She now,is still nursing 2 times a day..and her mother is eager to know ~exactly~ asin ounces, her little girl needs to consume to achieve the above. Doesanyo
ne have any idea? I know Dr. Jack says that immunities are actuallyhigher the second year, but this did not technically answer her question.Thank you,Mary Anderson***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:16:46 EDTFrom: [log in to unmask]: BM in NICUIn a message dated 9/30/2004 9:09:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,[log in to unmask] writes:a)who does the fortification? ie RN's,LPN's tech'sRN'sb)what protective devices are worn? Do we really have to dress like we aregoing to a C/S to fix a bottle of breastmilk?NO protective devices are needed:=20=E2=80=A2=E2=80=9CWhereas universal precautions DO NOT APPLY to human breast=milk, gloves=20may be worn by health care workers in situations where exposures to breast m=ilk=20might be frequent, for example in breast milk banking.=E2=80=9D=20=E2=80=93Centers for Disease Control. MMWR 1988; 37:377-82=20=E2=80=A2=E2=80=9CContact with breast milk does not constitute on occupation=al exposure risk=20as defined by OSHA standards.=E2=80=9D=20=E2=80=93Committee on Pediatric AIDS, AAP. Pediatrics 1995; 96:977-79=20c)are any of you doing checking of the numbers on the breastmilk with 2nurses before feeding?YES. Color coding was not working.d)do any of you sterilize the pump parts for parents while they are stillin the hospital=20NO, not necessary., or do you just instruct them to do this once they gethome? They can sterilize once a day at home as per manufacturer instructions=.e)are any of you using the Medela microsteam bags to sterilize pump partsor haberman feeders in the hospital, NOand if so who is responsible fordoing this? How do you store them after they are sterilized?NancyNancy E. Wight MD, IBCLC, FABM, FAAPNeonatologist, Sharp Mary Birch Hospital for Women and Children's HospitalMedical Director, Sharp HealthCare Lactation ServicesSan Diego, [log in to unmask]***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:10:30 -0400From: katherine in atl Subject: weight gain, charts, etc.<> month.>>for how many months?katherine in atl***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:14:56 -0400From: katherine in atl Subject: Babies who don't suck<They> get very little for their efforts on that bottle/nipple>>in my limited experience I see the opposite.....milk just goingeverywhere with *no* effort from the baby.I'm not really finding any appropriate uses for avent bottles these days.katherine in atl***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list
is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:14:41 EDTFrom: Gonneke van Veldhuizen Subject: Re: BM in NICUIn einer eMail vom 2-10-2004 20:25:13 West-Europa (zomertijd) schreibt [log in to unmask]:=E2=80=A2=E2=80=9CWhereas universal precautions DO NOT APPLY to human breast=milk, gloves=20may be worn by health care workers in situations where exposures to breast=20milk=20might be frequent, for example in breast milk banking.=E2=80=9D =20=E2=80=93Centers for Disease Control. MMWR 1988; 37:377-82=20=E2=80=A2=E2=80=9CContact with breast milk does not constitute on occupatio=nal exposure=20risk=20as defined by OSHA standards.=E2=80=9D=20=E2=80=93Committee on Pediatric AIDS, AAP. Pediatrics 1995; 96:977-79=20=20*************But how about preventing exposure towards the milk from the person handling=20==20it?=20Warmly,Gonneke van Veldhuizen, Dutch IBCLC in Germany***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:40:57 -0400From: katherine in atl Subject: DNA (DHA?:)) rich foods<as flax seed or meal, flax oil, canola oil, canola oil mayonnaise,walnuts, walnut oil, Brazil nuts, soybeans, wheat germ, and rawspinach. The body donverts LNA into DHA. >>though it's a very inefficient process. humans are probably meant toget long chain omega 3's from fish oil. the whole algal DHA thing isabsolutely frightening to me. I'm all about the 'whole'<trout, sardines, tuna, and fish oils (wild fish caught in uncontaminatedwaters are best).>>Wild salmon, sardines and anchovies are about it for me in terms ofsafety. many people find sardines and/or anchovies unpalatable whichleaves wild salmon. Pricewise, it's out of range for many people.While the 'safe fish'/food route is optimal, Molecularly distilledfish oil is a cost effective, safe, toxin free route that most peoplecan afford. The fish oil at Sam's/Costco are molecularly distilled, arevery fresh b/c of the high turnover and at $$7.99/$6.99 for *300*standard strength caps are in the price range that a significant numberof persons can afford.<nutrition is one way to improve overall physical and mental well being.>>absolutely. I've just read an absolutely fabulous book by Raffelockand Rountree on Postpartum Health and Recovery. will have to look upthe name. It was really really good.Very few US mothers would need additional high omega six oils/sources(nuts/seeds and their oils) but many will be very deficient in longchain omega 3 EFA's.the oils we get from nuts and seeds are important, but not really to berelied upon for DHA/EPA sufficiency.Katherine in atl***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:44:17 -0400From: katherine in atl Subject: DHA rich foods was:LACTNET Digest - 1 Oct 2004 - Special issue (#2004-1224)<which countries/cultures have such a diet and are there studies thatdemonstrate this?>>there is anthropological data available that clearly delineates variouscultures, diets and breastmilk DHA l
evels.imesho, it's not about one isolated nutrient though as much as it isabout looking at what we would have had (nutrient-wise) in anevolutionary environment and trying to replicate that as much aspossible, while being ever thankful for modern developments in terms offood availability.:)katherine in atl(please make sure to change subject lines appropriately when respondingfrom digest....i almost deleted this msg b/c I didn't k now it was athread I was following)***********************************************To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomailTo start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest)To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnetAll commands go to [log in to unmask] LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renownedLISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R)mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to:http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html------------------------------End of LACTNET Digest - 2 Oct 2004 - Special issue (#2004-1228)***************************************************************
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