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In a message dated 4/7/2005 6:37:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Why would it  not just go through their digestive system like any
other fluid?  Like  Ann said, it makes no sense that this fluid would need
to come out through  the mouth to make a baby feel better.

I have always heard that c/s  babies, especially planned c/s, and babies
from a fast delivery are more  spitty because they did not get the fluid
squeezed out of them.  What  I see these babies do I would classify as
vomiting.  They are not just  dribbling fluid out of their mouth like a baby
does after a good  meal.  I always associate vomiting with an infection or
stress.   Do other mammals gag and vomit after they are  born? 


Dear Friends:
    Duh..........how can I be so stupid not to see this  more clearly?
    I would bet that other animals don't vomit or  choke, or at least not to 
that extent.  Many littering animals have their  newborns come in little 
packages; the mother tears the sacs open with her teeth  and may eat them. She then 
licks the baby all over for quite a while.
         Here is  another  perversion of truth; we have been taught one thing 
(babies need to be suctioned  to get that fluid out) to avoid dealing with a 
truth, that babies NEED that  squeeze (and maybe for differing lengths of time 
depending on pelvic bone  diameters, the laboring environment, and the size 
and position of the  baby??)
 
        We see wet  babies more now, because now close to 1 baby in 3 is 
delivered ( I can not  call it born) surgically, without labor. Dr. Michel Odent 
(in another gem of a  book, The Cesarean) speaks of the need to distinguish 
between labor and  non-labor surgeries. It makes a difference.
 
    Then those wet babies get sucked out and guess  what??? They aren't so 
eager to go to breast. They would rather go back in their  shells like wee, 
darling turtles, and refuse to breastfeed. They have been  violently invaded, 
assaulted, and injured. They have to heal to get back into  the green, oxytocin 
zone. The postnatal rituals put babies in the red,  adrenalin zone.) Smart 
babies.
 
warmly,
Nikki Lee RN, MS, Mother of 2, IBCLC, CCE
Maternal-Child Adjunct  Faculty Union Institute and University
Film Reviews Editor, Journal of Human  Lactation
Support the WHO Code and the Mother-Friendly Childbirth  Initiative

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