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> Subject: LACTNET Digest - 27 Aug 1997 - Special issue
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:10:50 -0400
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> There are 14 messages totalling 351 lines in this issue.
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> Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. url to sub to the Breastfeeding Netter
> 2. NMAA: Thanks
> 3. Need advice on baby with reflux
> 4. Gentian Violet
> 5. breast lump
> 6. weaning
> 7. LACTNET Digest - 27 Aug 1997 - Special issue
> 8. The thing
> 9. Lactnet admin note
> 10. Weaning
> 11. Dobson & Ezzo
> 12. feeezing breast milk
> 13. letter to UK parliament
> 14. dildoes and Peggy Robin
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> Subject: url to sub to the Breastfeeding Netter
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:17:02 -0400
> From: Cindy Curtis <[log in to unmask]>
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> I have had several peolpe ask me for the url to sub to the
> breastfeeding newsletter, so here it is ......
>
> http://techshop.pdn.net/infant/
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> Subject: NMAA: Thanks
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:15:07 -2
> From: Lynn Moony <[log in to unmask]>
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> What a lovely gesture! Many thanks to NMAA's Lactation Resource
> Centre for their donation of old books. This is a thank you from
> a fellow African on behalf of unknown prospective candidates. There
> are relatively few of us who have access to articles, books,
> audiovisuals etc., let alone magic things like e-mail and Lactnet.
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> Lynn Moony
> Johannesburg, South Africa
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> Subject: Need advice on baby with reflux
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:31:38 -0400
> From: Loyann Waber and Jon Brush <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I received a call this morning from a mother who is feeling desperate about
> her baby's reflux. Here is the situation:
>
> The baby, who weighed 7 lb. 3.6 oz. at birth, is now seven weeks old. The
> mother has exclusively breastfed since her baby's birth. The baby had
> projectile vomiting from the beginning, often several times a day and even
> during feeds. At three weeks the baby had an upper GI that ruled out
> pyloric stenosis. At that point he was put on ranitidine .3 cc. and
> cisapride .3 cc. every twelve hours. The mother noticed marked improvement
> in the baby after he started the meds and he began to put on weight. At
> five weeks he weighed 7 lbs. 10 oz. Things continued to go well until
> Monday when his projectile vomiting returned. A weight check today
> revealed a 2 oz. gain in the last two weeks.
>
> The pediatrician, who is extremely concerned about this baby's poor weight
> gain, is recommending the following:
>
> Continue meds, breastfeed and follow up each feed with 1-2 oz. bottle of
> ABM thicked with cereal.
>
> His rationale is that the baby will gain weight with the ABM
> supplementation and will keep the ABM and breastmilk down better if the
> cereal is mixed in.
>
> The mother and baby are leaving town tomorrow for a week's vacation and she
> has reservations about following her doctor's advice.
>
> I would appreciate some Lactnet help with this! Since time is a factor,
> please post to me privately as well as to the digest.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Loyann Waber, LLLL
> Delaware, Ohio, USA
>
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> Subject: Gentian Violet
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:50:05 -0500
> From: Jack Newman <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Too bad for you all. A little purple for a few days, which works,
> compared to no purple which often doesn't work. I can't understand it.
>
> Many LC's in England are weeping, because they don't have it available.
>
> Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC
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> Subject: breast lump
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:52:28 -0500
> From: Jack Newman <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I must say I wouldn't touch a lump about which needle aspiration was
> reported as normal tissue. Surgery is rarely as worry free or easy as
> the surgeons often make out. This is a classic case.
>
> Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC
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> Subject: weaning
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:05:23 -0500
> From: Jack Newman <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I cannot understand this sort of relationship between doctor and
> patient, though I know it is the rule rather than the exception. As I
> always understood it, the doctor, *based on the best available
> evidence*, advises, the patient decides. I can be told that my high
> blood pressure (hypothetical, I don't have high blood pressure, though
> more stories such as this are bound to increase it), untreated will take
> x years off my life, or leave me with a brain hemorrhage, incapacitated
> for years, or... The doctor should also tell me that the medication,
> which, presumably I will have to take for the rest of my life, may cause
> electrolyte abnormalities, or heart failure or make my asthma worse (all
> potentially fatal) or cause impotence (not potentially fatal, but you
> know how men are). If I decide not to take the medication, given that
> information, there is nothing the doctor has to say about it. He might
> reaffirm his belief that I take the medication, if, next visit my blood
> pressure is high, but there is nothing he can do to make me take
> medication, even if my blood pressure is 220/150. The same with smoking
> (I don't smoke either) or getting my cholesterol checked or anything
> else.
>
> Given the facts here, most mothers, I think, would opt to continue
> breastfeeding, especially since the mastitis (if that's what she had)
> would get better faster with continued nursing. I think the physician
> can talk to the mother in such a way as to encourage her continuing, or
> in many cases give the same information and convince her to stop.
>
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> Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 27 Aug 1997 - Special issue
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:03:35 -0700
> From: Warner/Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I'M IN AGREEMENT that "The Thing" is in poor taste and not funny to me.
> What's the preoccupation with male anatomy and related ?humor? Let's keep
> Lacnet professional,positive and informative. :) B. Warner RN IBCLC
>
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> Subject: Re: The thing
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:46:06 -0400
> From: Cindy Curtis <[log in to unmask]>
>
> -- I have to agree with Liz on this one. I didnt appreciate "The Thing"
> either. Peolpe have complained to me that my sig file is to long, (and I
> have modified it several times at the request of others) because they
> have to pay by the line for downloads, I definately think jokes of this
> nature and length do not belong on LactNet.
>
> Cindy~~~~
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> Subject: Lactnet admin note
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:45:50 -0400
> From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Many thanks to Melissa Vickers for helping us while I was away on Martha's
> Vineyard ( no, I didn't see Bill Clinton, only my inlaws. : ) ) .
>
> What would we do without you Melissa?
>
> Anyhow, I am back..and Kathy A. is also around. Let us know if we can help.
>
> Kathleen
> Kathleen B. Bruce, BSN, IBCLC co-owner Lactnet,TLC, Indep. Consultant
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> Subject: Re: Weaning
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:39:15 -0500
> From: "Patricia Gima, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Dianne says: "... so bad that Doctor's can cause this kind of torture and the
> patients still see them as Gods."
>
> "The medical establishment will get off its pedestal only when we get off
> out knees." John Robbins
>
> Patricia Gima, IBCLC
> Milwaukee
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
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> Subject: Re: Dobson & Ezzo
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:06:17 -0700
> From: Lisa Marasco IBCLC <[log in to unmask]>
>
> >We're experiencing the influz of parents using the Babywise method and I
> >remember some talk in the past about this method and a criticism by Dr. James
> >Dobson. I may be wrong on this but if anyone has some of the ways to help
> >these parents and their biblical approach to strict parenting let me know. I
> >did put in a search to the lactnet library but I thought I'd check with the
> >group.
>
> Linda,
> Yes, Focus on the Family does have a statement regarding these books. I
> will quote from the applicable parts of the letter that I received back
> from them regarding their position, dated 9/12/96:
>
> "We do have concerns and reservations about the Ezzo's work, including
> the updated edition of PREPARATION FOR PARENTING. We are aware that some
> of the author's proposals--- notably those having to do with controlled
> feeding schedules for infants-- are controversial. Some critics have
> suggested that they might possbily result in child abuse if applied
> legalistically, inflexibly, and without regard for circumstnaces and the
> speical needs of individual children, though we believe such misuses
> would be contrary to the authors' intent. For these reasons we do not
> recommend this material to our constituents. further, we would sugest
> that, if and when it is used, its principles be implemented only in
> conjunction with generous measures of common sense, intuition, and
> natural parental affection."
>
> FOF has not given me permission to copy this letter in its entirety, but
> you can obtain your own copy by writing or calling them yourself. Rumor
> has it that Focus is now working on their own parenting book/curricula,
> trying to take the best from each "method". My one concern is that
> Shirley Dobson did not breastfeed her own children, and that this may be
> a blind spot for them in what they develop regarding breastfeeding. I'd
> sure like to see some Christian LC's in on that project!
>
> Another excellent resource is a theological critique written by Rebecca
> Prewett and available online at http://www.fix.net./~rprewett ---> Family
> Issues Page ---> Biblical Discernment, Ezzos. Though it deals with the
> 3rd edition (they have a 4th and 5th one now), the Ezzos have not
> retracted any of their previous material and in fact continue to defend
> it, so I and others believe the critique still stands. Major differences
> since 3rd edition? Removal of erroneous citations (leaving material left
> unsupported), addition of more info on how to tell if your baby is not
> thriving (wet diapers only), and a few other cosmetic changes; the stated
> intent remains. There are several other excellent articles available on
> her site as well to address many of the concerns that we all have had. I
> recently wrote an article that will soon appear at this site regarding
> the evidence for schedule vs demand feeding, and am happy to share it
> with anyone who emails me privately.
>
> -Lisa Marasco, BA, LLLL, IBCLC
>
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> Subject: feeezing breast milk
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:07:19 -0400
> From: Cindy Curtis <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I got this off of the latest Breastfeeding Newsletter....
>
> "After collecting, store the breastmilk in special plastic bags, plastic
> bottles, or glass bottles. "
>
> Is it still reccommended to store breastmilk in glass?? I thought it was
> not receommended to store breastmilk in glass?
>
> TIA
>
> Cindy
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> ~ Cindy , RN , IBCLC ~
> ~ Virginia , USA ~
> ~ mailto:[log in to unmask] ~
> ~ http://www.tidalwave.net/~cindy ~
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> Subject: letter to UK parliament
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:58:22 -0400
> From: "Laurie Wheeler, RNC, MN, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Hi all,
> I sent a similar letter to the member of parliament who spoke out against
> public bf. I borrowed some recent ideas posted on lactnet re bf is eating,
> and what if someone said bottlefeeding was offensive and asked the mom to
> leave.
> Thanks to all for the great ideas and if you want to see the letter, email
> privately.
> Laurie Wheeler, RNC, MN, IBCLC
> Louisiana (USA) BF mediawatch coord.
>
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> Subject: Re: dildoes and Peggy Robin
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:26:06 -0400
> From: Margery Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I am sorry that I have forgotten the person who first
> said this (at some conference session...) but the point
> was pondered: what would be thought of a doctor (or
> author!) who told a man [with sexual dysfunction]
> "Don't worry. Get a plastic one. It's the next best thing
> to your own."
> We wouldn't want the guy to feel guilty, now, would
> we?
> Margery Wilson, IBCLC
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