I am a new subscriber to Lactnet, and would appreciate a private message from
someone explaining EZZO, also. I must've missed it before. Thanks. Jean
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Topics of the day:
1. AOL problems.
2. Japanese info
3. delayed puberty
4. peace to all
5. EZZO
6. MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL
7. Flat nipples; help for hospital staff (long)
8. Web Page
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:35:10 -0500
From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: AOL problems.
Jill, thanks for writing about AOL problems. Somehow, your mail should be
able to be downloaded smoothly, and without grief. There are many aolers on
Lactnet...and I sure that someone can email you privately about how to get
this to be a less annoying problem. Hope that AOL can fix you up...and have
a Happy Holiday everyone!
Kathleen
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LACTNET WWW site: http://www.mcs.com/~auerbach/lactation.html
Remember: Jesus was a breastfeed ( on cue.) child.....!!
Happy Holidays and Warm Wishes to you from the Bruces!
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:45:05 -0500
From: Jan Barger <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Japanese info
Nicki,
There is a wonderful book out in Japanese, unfortuantely I can't give you the
name of it -- but I do have a copy. Has great pictures and cartoons, and
judging from what I can tell, the information is accurate. You can get it at
a Japanese bookstore (there's one in Arlington Heights) where Bob picked up a
copy for me. Demonstrates Japanese br. massage an all.
If anyone speaks Japanese, I could fax/mail a copy of the cover of the book
and if we got it translated into English, then we could tell our Japanese
moms what book to purchase. Can't give it to them obviously, but we could
suggest one that would be culturally appropriate for them, and as I said, it
looks good.
Jan B.
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:34:52 -0800
From: Keith Palmer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: delayed puberty
Good morning and one shopping day left. Tough cuz I just started
YESTERDAY!!
RE: breastfeeding, hormones, delayed puberty
Been following these posts with interest. Have noticed that my two oldest
( boy=15 1/2 yrs and girl 13 11/12yrs ) are slow in maturing. No facial
hair/voice changes/etc with son although he is tall (5' 10"). Some
beginning signs of maturation on daughter but no period yet. All this is
fine with me as life with teens is hard enough. Just as soon take it as
slow as possible. #3 is 11 5/6 yrs and a bit faster in maturation altho
nursed him longest?? True individuals.
So. I'm hoping those with more information will continue to post.
Also posted earlier that I would "research" Buddhism and breastfeeding.
Have found a book by Jon Blofeld on "Kuan Yin". She would be something
like the equivalent of a "most high Angel" or even another presentation of
the Buddha. She represents Compassion; freely given, always, without
reservation and in abundance. Her "temples" are usually near water and are
frequented by all especially women. She is associated with fecundity and
children in general. Will update as I read further, if people are
interested. I must add, tho, that I am a beginner zen student and limited
to my own level of understanding.
Thank You
Christine Palmer, Mill Valley CA
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 22:19:50 -0500
From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: peace to all
To my friends on Lactnet,
May the peace of the season fill you and remain with you and yours for the
New Year. Happy Holidays!
Kathleen
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Co-Owner Lactnet, LLLOL, Corgi-L E-mail lists
LACTNET WWW site: http://www.mcs.com/~auerbach/lactation.html
Remember: Jesus was a breastfeed ( on cue.) child.....!!
Happy Holidays and Warm Wishes to you from the Bruces!
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 22:09:25 -0500
From: Jeffrey Fouche <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: EZZO
Pardon my ignorance, but will someone e-mail me privately and
explain just what this EZZO stuff is all about!! Thanks!
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Jeffrey S. Fouche, RN, BSN
Assistant Director of Maternal/Child Services
Breastfeeding Educator
Barrow Medical Center
Winder, GA
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Check out my Web Page: http://members.gnn.com/jsfouche/index.html
Higher intelligence begins with breastfeeding!
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 22:14:36 -0500
From: pat Bull <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL
To all you NETTERS!!!!!!!!
Thinking about you all from cold Chicago this Christmas Eve night. I am
grateful tonight for the lords creation of cabbage. I continue to "wear"
cabbage to prevent my right eye from swelling shut along with the right side
of my brain expanding beyong the skull.
The celebration of the birth of Jesus is almost here, I think we all have our
blessings. Take care all!!!!!!!!!! and talk to you again soon.
Love,
Pat Bull, RN, IBCLC/The Breastfeeding Connection
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 22:38:47 -0500
From: "Becky Engel, RN, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Flat nipples; help for hospital staff (long)
Shirley,
I was just thinking of writing a note to Lactnet about a mom with flat
nipples. It is related to your case because I needed to offer interventions
for other staff nurses. Although I am the lactation consultant, my primary
job is as a staff nurse. I am budgeted for 8 hours a week for strictly
lactation consultant time. I live close to the hospital and go in for short
periods of time. I also frequently receive calls at home.
This week, we had a mother with very large, soft breasts and flat, soft,
small, inverted nipples. The baby was small and, due to maternal antibodies,
was jaundiced. We work 12 hour shifts. At 7 a.m., the nurse reported that the
baby couldn't latch on. She had tried to use a breast pump to pull the nipple
out, but didn't have good results. The nurse had finally used a nipple shield
and got the baby to latch on and reported that she nursed well. The phrase,
nursed well, always makes me ill at ease. I've been charting the phrase,
audible swallow, and have done short inservices and provided articles, but
change is slow. The mother-baby pair were part of my assignment for the
shift. Colostrum could easily be hand-expressed. However, the colostrum just
sort of pooled in a little dimple of the mom's breast. The baby would latch
onto the breast, but her mouth was far too small to compress the collection
ducts. When the baby sucked on the silicon nipple shield, she did not
stimulate the breast enough to obtain any colostrum. The baby sucked
effectively enough at breast to obtain a supplement through a supplementing
device. Since the mother's breasts could not be effectively stimulated by the
baby, we ended up by having the mom put the baby to breast, then cup feed,
and use an electric pump. When the mom developed a better milk ejection
reflex, the baby received some milk at breast, but I expect that
supplementation (preferably with mom's milk) will be necessary for awhile.
(The jaundice makes adequate intake expecially important). I gave the mother
my telephone numbers and will also follow up by calling her. (I gave her
other resources, also)
Now I'll finally put in my general recommendations to nursing staff.
First, get the baby awake. Unwrap the kid, hold her upright. I tell moms that
babies are sometimes like those dolls that open their eyes when you hold them
up, and close them when they are lying down. Tell the baby (and mom) that
babies eat better when their eyes are open. Show the mom how to stimulate the
baby's lower lip to open the mouth and stick out the tongue. I also usually
unwrap the blanket and try skin-to-skin contact of mom and baby.
Next, get the mom in a comfortable, supported position. A lot of nurses don't
think about using bedspreads as armrests for the mom. For a baby that doesn't
stay on the breast, the football, crosshold, or sidelying positions allow the
mother to keep the baby close, because there is more support of the head. One
caution about the football or cross-hold is to avoid touching the occipital
area (back) of the head. If the mother's hand is at the base of the head (top
of the neck), she has good support, but won't be stimulating the baby to push
away. Also, if it has been a traumatic delivery, the baby's occipital area
may be tender and bruised.
The most effective ways I have found to get nipples out are the use of a
breast pump (we usually use a hand pump) or to make a "nipple puller" from a
syringe (as illustrated in an article in an issue of the Journal of Human
Lactation (that issue is at the hospital. Let me know if you haven't seen it
and I'll find the reference).
An even more important point is that most babies can latch onto flat nipples.
I remind nurses and moms that they are BREASTfeeding, not nipplefeeding. The
main problem in the hospital is that the baby won't wake up. People
concentrate on the fact that mom's nipples don't look and feel like the
rubber ones that can be forced into a baby's mouth.
After the baby's mouth is open and the tongue is extended, make sure the baby
is held close and the lips are everted. I do a lot of "flipping the lips" and
gently pulling downward on the chin. If the baby has been sucking on a
rubber nipple, it is quite possible that the lips are tucked in and the
tongue is bunched up so that the baby is pushing the breast out of the mouth.
It's nice to hear that the hospital nurses are interested enough to ask for
suggestions. A big part of consulting for me is to praise the mother and
praise the nurses. It can be so frustrating to get breastfeeding established
and so nice when people can be persistent enough to get things working.
That's enough writing. My husband wants the computer.
Becky
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:45:36 -0500
From: Jeffrey Fouche <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Web Page
My Breastfeeding Web Page is at
http://members.gnn.com/jsfouche/breastfeeding.html
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Jeffrey S. Fouche, RN, BSN
Assistant Director of Maternal/Child Services
Breastfeeding Educator
Barrow Medical Center
Winder, GA
[log in to unmask]
Web Page: http://members.gnn.com/jsfouche/breastfeeding.html
Higher intelligence begins with breastfeeding!
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