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Pamela Mazzella Di Bosco <[log in to unmask]>
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I of course know that the study of one is not a study at all, but since I  
only birthed one this time it's all I had to work with. <smile>   Since I have 
been very curious about the very issue of weight and intake  and changes based 
on age as opposed to weight and the issue of increased  supply vs constant 
supply after initial established lactation, I enjoyed using  my own newborn as my 
subject. 
 
 This concept has always been very hard for me to wrap my head  around.  
Surely my 13 lb babes needed more milk at birth than the 6 lb  babes?  It seemed 
logical and obviously is logical to many as nurses are  constantly telling moms 
their big babies just can't be satisfied without that  supplement as they are 
just too big and need more milk.  I always accepted  the concept of smaller 
volume in the early days as it is logical regardless of  babes size that 
ability to acclimate to feeding would be better in smaller  amounts.  It was as they 
got older that the idea of needing less could be  true seemed hard to accept. 
 Thinking of all those years of 'growth spurt'  talk and 'increase the supply 
by nursing more', etc., this train of thought had  been ingrained in me.  It 
was very difficult to accept the research or  evidence.  And really, while I 
believe in evidence based, I also believe in  clinical experience and the 
statistical variation of research still allows for  no absolutes and within that 
could still think it necessary that the larger the  babe, the larger the amount 
of feed needed.
 
How exciting to have my very own homebirth newborn and a BabyWeigh at my  
bedside! Haha.  So, I began my little own study of one.  Her  birthweight was 11 
lbs 10 oz, and as I was also interested in the idea of weight  checks at 24 
hrs instead of immediately at birth, I checked at 24 hrs and she  was only 11 
lbs.  She had passed so many meconium stools I was not the  least bit surprised. 
 I did not do pre/post feed weights in the first 3  days, but did do 24 hr 
weight checks.  She went down to 10 lbs 13 oz by day  3.  Which, when compared 
to birthweight is a lot, but when compared to 24  hr weight is not much at all. 
 She stayed that weight for 2 days even  though her voids and stools were 
more than adequate.  I did pre and post  weighs for all her day time feeds but 
admit that those middle of the night feeds  I did not always remember to do.  
They were on average only 1 oz per  feed.  I would hand express more and try to 
feed it to her with a syringe,  she would spit up all of it!  Only keeping 
down the 1 oz she originally  took. My iron was extremely low and my breast 
simply were not feeling full,  so being the nut I am, I was hand expressing after 
every feeding and trying to  get her to take more. She refused.  She was having 
issues with  sucking and thinking her LC mom would let her clamp and pinch 
with her high  palate with a bubble, but she was wrong.  So, I would finger feed 
her to  teach her to keep her tongue more properly placed, and still I could 
not get her  to accept more than that one ounce.  I was expressing an easy two 
or three,  but she simply would not keep it in her.  Within a few days her 
suck was  fine, my pain was gone and she was eating about every hour and a  half 
with some stretches of 3 hrs. 
 
 She continued at this for a full 2 weeks.  She was not back to  birthweight 
at 2 weeks, but was back to her 24 hr weight.  Still, I kept  thinking this 
can't be right.  Surely since she is so big she must need  more milk. I have 
always had babes that were big (except the twins who were  average singleton 
weights each) and she was nursing pretty much in the same  pattern.  By 3 weeks 
she was back to birthweight, and at the same time  started to take in 2 1/2 oz 
per feeding for most feedings with 3 oz being an  occasional exception.  She 
fed every hour and a half or so, and I still had  plenty of milk left...I 
expressed an ounce easily after she finished and that  was with hand expression.  
What I found very interesting is that my supply  did in fact increase, even 
though she did not necessarily take what was  there.  My breast began to feel very 
full and sometimes uncomfortable as my  iron levels rose.  (They were low due 
to postpartum bleeding and I was put  on iron supplements.)  As I was able to 
walk without getting dizzy, I was  also making more milk.  Soon I was feeling 
full between feedings and  leaking.  Still she was not taking more than the 
amount she always  had.  (Luckily my older child was happy to help out.)

I am fairly  sure the breast is capable of increasing production after that 
one month  mark.  I know that I was able to increase my supply with my twins  
from almost nothing to a full supply and that was past the one month  mark.  I 
think if the ability to produce more milk was over at a  set time then 
logically women who are trying to increase production are  wasting their time.  Why 
bother working on a low supply if women are locked  into a production 
capability by one month. I still think that babies do  create an ebb and flow so to 
speak in the mother's supply.  I think  that amount changes feeding to feeding 
and day to day. I think that is part  of the problem with the formula fed babes 
in that they do not get to have the  variation in milk and are not able to 
control how much milk they take.   (Or some do---they just spit it all back up.  
And others don't.) 
 
I think this because on the occasion she did take in 4 ounces, she  spit up 
an ounce of it.  I made the 4, she only wanted to keep the 3.  Sometimes, she 
would spit up the entire feeding and feed again immediately  and only take the 
2 oz she wanted....which means I made 6 oz, she only  kept 2.  Another very 
interesting note, she did NOT gain her weight every  24 hrs.  Instead, she would 
gain, stay the same for a day or two, then have  another gain, stay, gain, 
stay gain.  Always with more than adequate stools  and voids.  I was going 
through 10-15 diapers a day.
 
This experience has helped me get a better grasp of the concept of milk  
production and intake stabilization and the idea that babies do not need the  
amount of milk those charts say they do when moms are trying to decide how much  
breastmilk to leave for a feeding.  I still think mothers are capable of  
increasing their supply after the 2 months, and that if babies were not having  
enough intake when the supply increases  they will increase what they take  too.  
I think the research is interesting, but I think it is only  a piece of the 
puzzle.   There is a variation in women's  capacity for storage and a range of 
capacity for production.  And with  that, there is also those babies who eat 
far too much at a feeding and some  who are far too content with too little.  I 
also think that even if the  variation is only a couple of ounces, that is 
still a change.  So, if a  baby is consuming 700 ml at 3 months, and at 6 months 
is consuming 760 or a  bit more, statistically that may be insignificant, but 
for that one baby it is  an ounce or two more per day.  It is an increase 
even if only a half ounce  here and there. Also, many babies do just fine without 
starting solids at 6  months, so the idea that babies do not consume more 
breastmilk when we would be  expecting them to consume solids to complement the 
breastmilk also seems to  interfere with the idea that milk intake amount is 
constant based on the amount  taken at 2 months.
 
I think that as long as we are looking at baby growth parameters of normal  
with any amount of formula or solids we do not have a complete picture of what  
the average biological norm is.  I am not sure we could even realistically  
have a complete picture regardless as genetics and other factors play in growth 
 also.  My 13 lb babies did not weigh 26 lbs at 4 months or 6 months...and I  
am glad too because that would have been back breaking. But, my 9 lb baby did 
 weigh 20 lbs at 4 mnths and my twins doubled their birthweight at 6 months, 
but  that was still below the weight my 13 pounders weighed at 6 months who 
had not  doubled.  I am thinking there is much more to the picture of health 
than a  number on the scale.  
 
I enjoyed using my Veronica Rose and continue to do so.  Every couple  of 
weeks I spend a few days doing pre and post weights and see if she is  starting 
to take in more milk over a 24 hr period.  I am coming up on the  time to do it 
again and she is not almost 5 months old.  I will be very  interested to see 
the amount of milk she is taking and will not be starting  solids at 6 months, 
as I never did before with any of my children so will be  interested to see 
if she increases her intake then.  

Again, I know this is only a study of one, but she was a big  baby.  I do 
wish I had this scale and thought to do this with all of my  children! Haha.  I 
did it with the twins out of necessity and am wishing I  did it with the 
previous child to have a comparison.  Maybe I will have  that 8th baby and see if it 
varies with child....
 
Take care,
Pam MazzellaDiBosco, IBCLC, RLC
Davie, FL

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