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>Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. Sears commercial
> 2. Lactnet poster - trial balloon
> 3. Nipelette
> 4. clef baby
> 5. Sears
> 6. Carrie's Case
> 7. increasing milk supply
> 8. for grandparents, blind mum
> 9. Travelling
> 10. Carrie's Case \\another suggestion
> 11. for grandparents, blind mum -Reply
> 12. CHELE MARMET"S phone number needed fast
> 13. BF & IQ
> 14. Health Care Cost Savings--reply
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>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:44:57 -0500
>From: Diane Karnbach <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Sears commercial
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>I saw this one too! Couldn't believe what I saw. There wasn't a baby in
>sight. Just a beautiful woman dressed in a beautiful dress smiling
>beautifully with a bottle in her hand. Some message, huh? Yes, I'll be
>getting a letter off to them in the morning.
>
>Diane Karnbach, LLLL
>Virginia Beach
>What do all of you Lactnetters think about creating a 1997 (in time for
>conference) Lactnet photo poster? My idea is a poster full of wallet-sized,
>head & shoulders photos of Lactnet subscribers, each identified with name &
>credentials. It's possible to add other brief ID info that the individual
wants
>(ie hospital connection, name of practice, etc). The poster size would be
25" x
>38", printed on 100 lb. gloss cover paper. If a great many of you are"
>interested, I anticipate creating two posters: the first covering A-L and the
>second covering M-Z. My image is of a grand Lactnet gathering at ILCA in
August
>with everyone busily getting autographs on each others' photos. Those who
>aren't going could have their posters mailed to them. Can you see this hanging
>on the wall above your computer so you can "see" who you're writing to? :-)
>It may be "outdated" the day after I stop receiving photos, but then, so are
>school yearbooks. This will be a review of members as of, say, late Spring or
>early Summer, 1997.
>Here are the details I have to date: Subscribers who wish to participate would
>send a photo, a check for costs, a self-addressed & stamped return envelope
so I
>can return the photo, and an address label if the poster is to be mailed to
>them. Using Linda Pohl's computer, I would scan the photo into her
computer and
>use her graphics program to create the camera-ready layout. I have a printer
>picked out who has given what I believe to be a reasonable bid, but I will seek
>others just to be sure. His prices run from a low of $1.60 each poster for
B&W,
>to a high of $5.19 each poster for a 4-color poster. Twice that if two
>different posters are needed to handle the volume of photos. I have yet to
work
>out the costs of mailing tubes and postage, and sales tax on the printing bill.
>All amounts are, and will be, actual expenses. This is NOT a fund-raiser for
>me. Orders will be accepted only from current Lactnet subscribers.
>What I'm asking is, do you like the idea? Are YOU willing to participate
by 1)
>sending your photo, and 2) buying the poster - or both posters if that is what
>is required to print all the photos that are sent in? I have discussed this
>with both KA & KB and it's now time for your opinions. DO NOT SEND ANY PHOTOS
>OR CHECKS NOW!! What do you think about including photos of Lactnet Lunches?
>What do you think about applying the photo poster idea to a t-shirt? Other
>ideas?
>Post your comments to me privately - not to Lactnet. I will post results of
>your GO or NO GO votes, and your general comments. Thanks.
>
>Phyllis Adamson, BA, IBCLC
>Prvt. Prac. - Glendale, AZ
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>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:43:33 +0200
>From: "David & Nofia [log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Nipelette
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>My mentor here has recommended it to women for use before pregnancy, and
>then to do the suggested follow-ups isn't such a big deal, even during
>pregnancy. She said quite a few women have really given her very positive
>feedback (It probably improved their sex lives as well - or at least gave
>them a feeling of a more acceptable body).
>
>I think the real hindrance is the price. However, I think that if it
>really makes women happy and gives them a good feeling that it's helped
>them, I think that's what's important. Remember the psychophysiology part
>can really make a difference. I'm not so sure I'd want to use just a plain
>old syringe myself, but look at this nifty gadget, called the ------ and
>whala! That's cool!
>
>I think it gives women the feeling that their problem is being taken
>seriously by someone somewhere, and some women probably see the inverted
>syringe as some contraption the LC just came up with to get rid of their
>problem and go on to the next.
>
>Just today on the rounds I accompanied the LC on, she used the inverted
>syringe on some girl who obviously thought it was distasteful--( but then
>it seems this woman found everything beneath her approval - she is probably
>giving the baby formula as I type, while she complains that cows can't
>just BF our babies for us. ho-hum I grade her at -100 bonding. very sad.)
>
>Remember, the everyday woman in the hospital doesn't read our books, nor
>does she read Lactnet.
>
>Never underestimate the value of commercialism: not with formula, beer,
>cigarettes, or anything else.
>Maybe in the society I live in we tend to be more contraption oriented than
>in the States?
>
>Nofia
>
>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:57:01 -0600
>From: Osterholts <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: clef baby
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>Carrie,
>
>Are you working with a lactation consultant?
>
>
>> I am dumbfounded by the lack of support and advice I expected to find here
>> on lactnet in relation to the problem I now find myself in. I am
>> "surrounded" by lactation consultants and other breastfeeding specialists...
>> and am myself a breastfeeding peer. You have NO idea the frustration I've
>> encountered trying to solve this problem by myself... as well as the
>
>
>Assunta Osterholt, IBCLC
>
>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:14:38 -0600
>From: Osterholts <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Sears
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>Carrie or Caroline,
>
>> Hey!!!whats UP??? I just watched a commercial for SEARS dept. stores with
>> another beautiful woman dressed up to go out in her beautiful SEARS-bought
>> evening gown getting a bottle ready for (I assume ) her baby.
>> Are we over- reacting to ANY portrayal of bottle- feeding in the media or
>> should we collectively respond with our protests????
>> Anyone have knowledge of a public relations contact at SEARS to whom I may
>> direct a complaint?
>
>
>Although I did not see this commercial, immediately after it aired, my 8
year old daughter
>ran over to me to tell me about it. She asked me if I was going to call
Sears and
>complain.
>
>Assunta Osterholt, IBCLC
>
>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:35:21 -0600
>From: Osterholts <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Carrie's Case
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>Kathleeen,
>
>> We are all , I am sure, thinking of ways to help Carrie in her most
>> difficult situation. However, let us remember too, that doing LC work via
>> the internet/Lactnet is not our major focus here. It is so difficult to do
>> such work over the internet..,...and it is like you all guessing what color
>
>
>I'm with you on this, but has anyone on Lactnect thought of the
possibilities of video
>conferencing for special cases?
> Think of the possibilities, if I were having an extremely difficult time
with a case, such
>as Carrie's, I could project her breastfeeding over the net and get a
second opinion from
>another LC who may specialize in that particular area.
>The video coferencing camera's are relatively inexpensive. Providing your
computer has
>the capabilities, I think this might be something to considered in the future.
>
>What do you think the future will be?
>
>Assunta Osterholt, IBCLC
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:09:48 +1000
>From: Oscar <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: increasing milk supply
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>Hello kathy, Sometimes I suggest to Mums to take a photo of their baby and
>look at it when they are expressing. It also helps if they are relaxed, have
>a meal or something to eat before expressing. A quiet, semi-darkened room
>with 'mood' music can add something. Mothers should be stress-free, so a
>listening ear has it's place if necessessary. I have found parents love the
>idea to obtain a soft toy and have the Mother place it under her (unwashed)
>arm and sleep on it overnight, then leave the toy in the cot with the baby.
>The thought is that baby thinks Mother is nearby. Likewise, if Mum can
>bring a shirt off her baby and smell it before expressing, it may also help
>with prolonging expressing. A.Stolz RM IBCLC in sunny Queensland.
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:42:03 +1100
>From: Trudi <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: for grandparents, blind mum
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>The Nursing Mothers' Association of Australia has a fabulous booklet
>entitled "Especially for grandparents" which covers most areas of
>controversy between new mum's and their relatives, in a inoffensive yet
>positive way !!!!
>
>It only costs $3.00 and is available from them at "[log in to unmask]".
> Also check out the web page for more info
>"http://www.vicnet.net.au/vicnet/nmaa/nmaahome.htm".
>
>Now I would like to tap into your collective wisdom. My local group is
>holding a 'Breastfeeding Education Class' in a few weeks time. One of the
>pregnant women who has registered is blind. She is expecting her first
>baby in April 1997. We will be covering the benefits of breastfeeding, how
>the breasts make milk, positioning and attachment, the "normal" newborn
>baby - what to expect, the art of breastfeeding and common
>concerns/questions. We ask each participant to bring along a large doll to
>facilitate the positioning and attachment segment, show a video and use
>overhead projectors and the NMAA "Breast Atlas".
>
>She is bringing along a friend for support, and this person will also be
>helping her in the early days with her baby. My specific question relates
>to the best way to present this information so that is is relevant and
>meaningful to this mum and so she feels part of the class. If anyone has
>any suggestions - I am all ears!
>
>
>
>Trudi Szallasi
>RN NMAA Breastfeeding Counsellor
>
>"Those who were dancing were thought to be quite
>insane by those who could not hear the music"
>I am going nomail for a month or so while I travel. I'll miss you
>all, although I will mostly be in the US where most Lacnetters live.
>Unfortunately, I'll have no time to put faces to names - maybe next
>year. If anyone needs to contact me privately, my email will be
>forwarded to me from time to time when I have internet access.
>
>I look forward to meeting other Lactnetters at the WABA Forum in
>Bangkok in December.
>
>Ros Escott
>Tasmania, Australia
>Ros Escott
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>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:10:36 -0500
>From: cindy <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Carrie's Case \\another suggestion
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>Another suggestion, re Carries case.....
>
>I would be willing to schedule a special chat on LactChat and we could all
>brainstorm together {with Carrie there of course}, and this would be in
>real time, vs e mail and wait, e mail and wait.......
>
>All we have to do is get the interested ppl set up to chat, and Im willing
>to help anyone whos interested.
>
>We could do this anytime there is a special concern or need......
>
>What do you all think?
>
>Cindy
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>11/4/96 8:51:27 AM
>My husband is blind, which I suppose qualifies me as a
>consultant on this topic :)
>
>The foremost suggestion I can offer is: be direct, and ask the
>blind woman to let you know how you can best serve her
>needs. And, don't worry if you say things like "See you
>later!" etc. (My husband said to add that; people are always
>embarrassed and apologizing to him for using sight related
>phrases.)
>
>She may be planning to bring a tape recorder, or you might
>suggest it. Ask if she has found breastfeeding materials on
>tape or in braille. I know LLLI has some materials; my
>husband read the "Womanly Art..." And he was in touch
>with blind parents referred to him by LLLI who gave him "new
>dad support" via long distance telephone calls! They were a
>goldmine of practical information (how to manage a stroller --
>push chair -- when using a cane or guide dog, for instance).
>In the USA, materials on tape are available from the Library
>of Congress lending library, which most blind people
>subscribe to; I imagine a similar service is offered in your
>country as well. If you have hand-outs for the class, ask the
>person if she would like you to put the information on tape for
>her.
>
>The doll is a great idea; likely the blind woman will need
>someone to demonstrate for her what you are telling the
>group (about positioning, etc.) Her support person can do
>this; or, maybe you can divide the group into pairs to assist
>each other, and that will give the sighted person and the blind
>partner each a chance to coach. Since she will be assessing
>her baby's latch by feel (a superior method!) be specific
>about how bf "should" feel, how much of the breast needs to
>be in the baby's mouth, etc.
>
>I will never forget the comment made to me by a blind friend.
>She was telling me about her experience in the hospital
>when she had her first baby. "The nurse came in and asked
>me did I need any help. I said no, I thought I was OK. So she
>left me alone. She treated me like any other new mom. She
>trusted that I was capable." Sounds simple, but keep it in
>mind. BTW: my friend is capable. She has three kids (now
>grown), keeps a spotless house, was a Girl Scout leader,
>volunteers her time in a variety of ways -- and generally
>makes me feel like a lazy slob.
>
>Margery Wilson, IBCLC
>Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>Medical Department
>Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
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>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:31:17 -0500
>From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: CHELE MARMET"S phone number needed fast
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>Hi. Will someone please e-mail me the phone number of the Lactation
>Institute ASAP/?
>
>Thanks.
>Kathleen
>
>Kathleen B. Bruce, BSN, IBCLC co-owner Lactnet,Corgi-L,TLC, Indep. Consultant
>http://together.net/~kbruce/kbbhome.html
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>
>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:59:22 -0800
>From: "Catherine Watson Genna, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: BF & IQ
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>Kimberly,
>The babies who were tube fed donor milk in Lucas' study were infants
>whose mothers chose NOT to breastfeed or express milk, because Lucas
>wanted to exclude all the psychosocial effects. The milk was term 'drip
>milk', the lowest quality human milk possible! THink what the results
>would have been if these kids had been fed actively expressed, preterm
>milk from their own mothers!
>--
>Catherine Watson Genna, IBCLC NYC [log in to unmask]
>Dr. Miriam Labbock, from Institute for Reproductive Health,
>Georgetwon University published an article in the Academy of
>Breastfeeding Medicine newsletter. She stated "Using the disease-based model
>and illness reduction that could be expected from full breastfeeding
>for 12 week, it is estimated that the US would save $2.16 billion
>annually." I do not know if she has done further analysis of the"
>data, or if has been published elsewhere. If anyone knows if it has
>been published please send me the reference.
>
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