I remember first hearing about   the cross cradle hold many years ago, but 
under the  name of  a particular midwife's  'never fail'  way of helping a 
new mum latch a baby.  Nearly  20 years down the line,  same hospital uses 
it  routinely  I understand, and they   don't have  sore nipples at he 
newborn  stage, but they do  a few weeks down the line when  the baby has 
grown and got heavier and  they are still doing it the same.  And mums can 
get  wrist problems.  Locally it is a way  shown at some of the 
breastfeeding  drop ins, and occasionally when talking to  a mum with an 
older baby she'll talk about    ways of supporting his weight, it often 
turns out that she is  still doing it with a big heavy baby. So it's useful 
to know the problems  that can  happen down the  line.  I've known mums do 
it  that way for  maybe a year,  they  don't have the courage to change the 
way as it works
 If you do as some helpers do and once the babe is latched on comfortably, 
have the mum slip her  other arm round   so it's now the  cradle hold and 
explains that it is just a way to   enjoy a painfree feed, not what she must 
do for ever and a day,   she gets to see how  the baby should look when she 
next tries latching  in the cradle hold.  For most mums this is not with the 
baby in the crook of the  elbow,  at least in eh early months and  she can 
do differently another time

Helen
England

Pam said:  "The bottom line, if I am seeing a mom, something is wrong."
> BINGO!=20
> Whatever instinctual cues the mom is having, or whatever she has learned,=
> it=20
> didn't work for her.  The BEST position is whatever position you can help=
> her=20
> find no pain in!
>
> What I end up telling a lot of clients is that LC's just (hopefully) have=
> learned=20
> a lot of techniques and have acquired a skill for troubleshooting to get =
> you out=20
> of pain and start having the wonderful experience new motherhood is=20
> supposed to be - with all the yuckiness and sleepiness that goes with it!=
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