In responsse to Karleen ? about teaching a child over 12 months to
breastfeed. I would imagine that the child might have forgotten how to
suckle. With the introduction of solids a child starts to pull the tongue
back in order to swallow and if the suckling motion had never been learned
at the breast I would simple think that it would be difficult - not
impossible. I know that many of us have probably experience an older child
wanting to nurse when a new baby came home, but then fiding that the older
child no longer knew how to breatfeed. The suckling action needed at the
breast is something that the baby outgrows as they get older and learn other
methods of eating. For a child that has been on a botle for over a year the
change in sucking pattern might be too difficult to learn or the need to
suck might have already been outgrown. Just my guess - (I've never adopted
an older child so haven't really tried this) I would imagine that the
LLLLeaders are trying to be realistic so that the mom won't be too
disappointed if baby isn't interested
Peg Merrill IBCLC, LLLL(retired)
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:18:25 +1000
> From: Karleen Gribble <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: adoptive breastfeeding older children
>
> I sent the following post a few days ago but didn't get any replies so =
> I'm sending it again. Do no replies mean that no one has heard this =
> before???=20
> Karleen Gribble
> Australia
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:47 PM
>
> I've got a question for LLLL.
> Over the past few years I've heard from several adoptive-mothers-to-be =
> who have been told by LLLL that children who are 12 months or older at =
> placement can't be taught to breastfeed. I heard this from a mum just =
> this week. She went to a LLL meeting, was told this and didn't feel at =
> all supported. I'm wondering if someone at a LLL conference or somewhere =
> else associated with LLL has told leaders this? It just seems strange =
> that the 12 month mark has been come up repeatedly. Can anyone elighten =
> me?
> Karleen Gribble=20
> Australia
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:33:11 -0700
> From: "Andrea C. Tran" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Severe engorgement
>
> I know this is probably a little unorthodox, but maybe Dad could help
> out. Especially since the baby isn't there, and I always tell moms,
> the baby is more efficient than the pump because the baby is not only
> sucking, but also compressing/massaging the ducts at the same time.
> So, if she's not too freaked out by it, Dad could maybe "breastfeed."
>
> Andrea Tran RN, IBCLC
> Erie, Colorado
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:35:38 -0700
> From: Kate Hallberg <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: trends of decreasing breastfeeding patterns in China
>
> DECLINE in breastfeeding rates undermines children's
>> development ...
>> Xinhua - China
>> ... While there is extensive scientific evidence
>> that breastmilk is the
>> best for infants, especially during the first months
>> of life, exclusive
>> breastfeeding rates ...
>>
> <http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/24/content_1437708.htm>
>
> "GENEVA, April 23 (Xinhuanet) -- The United Nations
> Children's Fund(UNICEF) said Friday that the recent
> milk powder infant deaths in China appear to confirm
> trends of decreasing breastfeeding patterns in China,
> which may have significant long-term impacts on the
> physical and intellectual development of children. "
> No kidding. :-(
>
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:30:30 -0700
> From: joylyn <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: adoptive breastfeeding older children
>
> I've always thought that the older the child the less likely they will
> learn to or return to breastfeeding. So for instance, if you have an
> adoptive child who has never breastfed, and the child is older than a
> year, then the likelihood of that child ever learning is much smaller
> than say a three week old adoptive baby who has never breastfed. That
> doesn't mean I wouldn't encourage a mother to try to breastfeed. I
> would. But I would probably encourage them more to produce milk so that
> human milk, even a small amount, could be given to their baby. I would
> also encourage bonding behaviors, such as cosleeping, babywearing, skin
> to skin contact, and, if a bottle is given, bottle feeding as though the
> baby was nursing (in the nursing position). Also, I would encourage
> that if a bottle was given, that the baby not be encouraged to hold
> their own bottle, but instead the mother/father/caregiver should give
> the bottle while holding, talking, etc. with the baby.
>
> Joylyn
>
> Karleen Gribble wrote:
>
>> I sent the following post a few days ago but didn't get any replies so I'm
>> sending it again. Do no replies mean that no one has heard this before???
>> Karleen Gribble
>> Australia
>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:47 PM
>>
>> I've got a question for LLLL.
>> Over the past few years I've heard from several adoptive-mothers-to-be who
>> have been told by LLLL that children who are 12 months or older at placement
>> can't be taught to breastfeed. I heard this from a mum just this week. She
>> went to a LLL meeting, was told this and didn't feel at all supported. I'm
>> wondering if someone at a LLL conference or somewhere else associated with
>> LLL has told leaders this? It just seems strange that the 12 month mark has
>> been come up repeatedly. Can anyone elighten me?
>> Karleen Gribble
>> Australia
>>
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