Hi Laurie,
I agree with you that babies get hungry - some of them very early on. At
least that is my experience in the hospital.
Best,
Chayn Fogelman Israel

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Laurie Wheeler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I must say I may have an unpopular opinion on this. First, I don't think
> all or most babies need supps in first 48 hrs, nor would they need very
> large volumes like 30 to 60 mls. However, in regards to the question "are
> babies hungry after they are born?" I would have to say, it seems like they
> are at times. They have been eating in utero, they are consuming amniotic
> fluid, which I think must be a nourishing fluid. They are also being fed
> via the placenta. What sensations are they feeling when they are born?
> Maybe it is a form of hunger pangs as their tummy empties and there is no
> amniotic fluid to drink, and also no nourishment coming from mom's
> placenta. Surely they suckle just by instinct too, and this drives mother's
> supply, and for comfort I'm sure. However, having observed babies for 36
> yrs, I definitely believe that babies get hungry after a day, if not
> sooner, maybe some it's later. They know somehow that the breast is not
> giving them a fluid, when the breast does not, and they refuse strongly to
> even suckle once they realize they are hungry and nothing is coming out. So
> I do see this at times, when mother's breasts are only giving drops after a
> day or so, (why is this by the way, as some mom's are  pouring colostrum
> out and can express a whole ounce immediately???) and baby is getting ?
> hungry ? at that point.
>
> The care of infants has a component of evaluating pain on newborn pain
> scales. If the baby is crying and sucking his hand and is inconsolable by
> any measure, and milk cannot be expressed or only drops, I think it is
> cruel to not provide food to the infant. This is not a common occurrence
> but not a rare occurrence either, in my experience. It can happen on 2nd
> day or 3rd day when the mom is a primip for example and a c/s birth, and
> infant is 9 lbs. Other scenarios I've seen as well. I wish there was donor
> milk for those times. But I do feel that babies experience hunger fairly
> soon in life.
>
> <<<> "Day of life 0-3....Sucking DOES NOT = Hunger.  Everyone has a job to
> do.  Babies are not born hungry- otherwise they would "eat inside of
> mama."  Babies are born with a high suck need. She asks: "Why would nature
> have a high suck need with low volume?  Because baby needs to suckle, so he
> can clean out the meconium via paristalsis in infant gut/tummy.   We are
> generally not that hungry if we're full of poop!  At the same time, Mom
> needs to nurse in order to set prolactin receptor sites, in preparation for
> the normal increase in milk volume on days 3-4…….>>>
>
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