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Have permission to post by this mom who I am in a quandry about.  Baby  is 21 
days, full term, bth wt 8-5... lowest wt 7-13... wt today is 8-13.   This is 
the first I have seen of this baby though mom came by and rented a  Symphony a 
few days ago.  Baby looks good, is peeing, pooping only 3-4  times a day, 
seedy and yellow.  Parents are giving supplemental bottles of  EBM about 2 times 
a day when baby is inconsolable and hungry.  Mother has  well developed 
breasts, perfect nipples and areola size, protruding, etc.   She had a very good 
milk supply but it is dwindling.  If she doesn't pump  at night, she winds up 
leaking all over her nightgown.  Baby latches on  okay but doesn't do much.  She 
sucks for a short bit, not a whole lot of  swallowing, sleeps on and off even 
when cued, breast compression et al.   Her chin is somewhat recessed.  Her 
frenulum is not clearly tight as it  seems a bit far back, but her tongue does 
not go up to the palate when she  cries, rather it curls some or stays in 
center, but not up.  She did not  take kindly to my gloved finger in her mouth.  
Would not suck with finger  feed enough to get milk through #5 French tube.  
Would not suck hard enough  at breast for same.  Mother hates idea of SNS and 
would not purchase  it.  I rigged my #5 French version but the stiffness of the 
tube seemed to  bother the baby.  Even when she did keep it in her mouth and 
finally after  forever tries, pulled the milk down into her mouth, she did not 
respond  vigorously at all, just the same.  When I shot some milk into the  
corner of her mouth with periodontal syringe, this too did not stimulate her  
suck.  Mother is very obsessive about figures and record keeping with  meticulous 
charts of nursing times, bottles fed, outputs, etc.  She pumps  on and off 
through night when baby does not nurse.  She sits up sometimes  waiting for baby 
to wake and always sits upright to feed, not laying down.   I did show her 
side lying and I thought the baby was a bit better at sucking  that way.  Tried 
size small nipple shield and it went okay -- not great in  that it took awhile 
for baby to pull enough to get milk into shield tip.   It was no miracle cure. 
 I have suggested to parents that they check with  ped to evaluate possible 
tongue tie, but who knows where that will go.  I  doubt it would be correctly 
diagnosed and/or that they would allow  clipping  The odd thing is that there 
is no nipple soreness, which seems to  usually coincide with tight frenulum.  
Baby is always wanting to be at  breast, though when they bottle feed her she 
sleeps longer and when they used  formula, well - she slept all night!  Mother 
is taking Fenugreek which ped  told her he never heard of!  
 
In the two hours I was there, between tubes, syringes, finger, and breasts,  
she took 3 oz. but it was a marathon.  
 
I am humbled here as I am coming up dry and not able to figure out what to  
do.  Oh Smart LCs of the World.... your thoughts?  Thanks, Ann
 
 
Ann  Conlon-Smith, IBCLC 
Triangle Lactation Consultants 
_www.trianglelactation.com_ (http://www.trianglelactation.com/) 



"Prayer does not use up artificial energy, doesn't burn  up any fossil fuel, 
doesn't pollute. Neither does song, neither does love,  neither does dance." 
Margaret Mead 
"Neither does breastfeeding,"  ACS




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